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Bigjag
Copper Member
USA
7 Posts |
 Posted - 12/20/2009 : 09:57:52
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| Had a salesman at a store try to sell me the Pitch Black, still undecided, may end up leaning toward the TU-3... |
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archimedes
Silver Member
United Kingdom
191 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2009 : 11:25:41
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Originally posted by Ollie
the true Bypass is just a bonus, the Pitchblack is smaller, cheaper, and is more accurate. I think someone has a pitchblack on here, RHCP?
Actually the Pitchblack and the TU-3 are both specified as accurate to + or - 1 cent so there should be no difference on that score
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Ollie
Gold Member
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2009 : 14:08:04
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| Fair enough, I was comparing it to the TU-2's accuracy. Might check out the TU3 at some point |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
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Iversen
Bronze Member
Denmark
111 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2009 : 20:47:04
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Zerksies, what is it with you and tuners?
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Originally posted by zerksies
Still can't beat this for accurate
http://www.petersontuners.com/index.cfm?category=2
The Turbo Tuner is accurate down to 0.02 cent. That beats the StroboStomp by a factor of 5. Check the specs:
http://www.turbo-tuner.com/
It also tracks faster:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bY9H7ec6_0
I'm not paid to pimp the Turbo Tuner, but it just seems a bit silly to keep having this thing about tuners and accuracy when the facts are presented. I understand any discussion we can have about this or that chorus, but tuners? It comes down to a matter of money, whether you like true bypass or not and perhaps which design you like.
Good reasons for not choosing the Turbo Tuner:
It's too expensive compared to the Pitch Black or the TU-3. 
You may have excess real estate on your pedal board, so you'd rather go with a StroboStomp2. 
Also, you may wanna burn more money on a tuner, so again, you go with the StroboStomp2. 
You may be a Boss pedal aficionado, in which case you go with the TU-3, even it it didn't tune at all. 
You may need a buffer somewhere in your signal path, again, the TU-3 is for you. 
You may want to daisy chain from your tuner, so you need the TU-3 or the StroboStomp2. 
Enough with the funny: The Turbo Tuner is the superior product when it comes to pedal tuners. |
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Mansun
Gold Member
Spain
564 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2009 : 02:00:28
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I believe the Pitchblack provides also a daisy chain for more pedals. I'll tell you after Christmas 
PS: I liked that spanish word 'aficionado' you used, even more given you're not american, who are more likely to use spanish words  |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2009 : 03:45:15
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Originally posted by Iversen
Zerksies, what is it with you and tuners?
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Originally posted by zerksies
Still can't beat this for accurate
http://www.petersontuners.com/index.cfm?category=2
The Turbo Tuner is accurate down to 0.02 cent. That beats the StroboStomp by a factor of 5. Check the specs:
http://www.turbo-tuner.com/
It also tracks faster:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bY9H7ec6_0
I'm not paid to pimp the Turbo Tuner, but it just seems a bit silly to keep having this thing about tuners and accuracy when the facts are presented. I understand any discussion we can have about this or that chorus, but tuners? It comes down to a matter of money, whether you like true bypass or not and perhaps which design you like.
Good reasons for not choosing the Turbo Tuner:
It's too expensive compared to the Pitch Black or the TU-3.
You may have excess real estate on your pedal board, so you'd rather go with a StroboStomp2.
Also, you may wanna burn more money on a tuner, so again, you go with the StroboStomp2.
You may be a Boss pedal aficionado, in which case you go with the TU-3, even it it didn't tune at all.
You may need a buffer somewhere in your signal path, again, the TU-3 is for you.
You may want to daisy chain from your tuner, so you need the TU-3 or the StroboStomp2.
Enough with the funny: The Turbo Tuner is the superior product when it comes to pedal tuners.
Ok you win that round but a in tune guitar is a happy guitar |
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
756 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2009 : 12:25:09
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Originally posted by zerksies
Ok you win that round but a in tune guitar is a happy guitar
Playing in tune is definitely important. I'm with Zerksies on that one. But all this discussion makes me wonder how accurate the human ear is? Can you hear if one string is 0.02 cents out of tune? I'm not sure I can but I'm guessing everyone has different levels of ability... |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2009 : 17:33:53
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Originally posted by natthu
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Originally posted by zerksies
Ok you win that round but a in tune guitar is a happy guitar
Playing in tune is definitely important. I'm with Zerksies on that one. But all this discussion makes me wonder how accurate the human ear is? Can you hear if one string is 0.02 cents out of tune? I'm not sure I can but I'm guessing everyone has different levels of ability...
Actually i can hear it.My acoustic is out about .2 cents and it is driving me nuts, My stewmac order should be here tomorrow. i bought a couple blanks |
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
Silver Member
USA
270 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2009 : 18:35:57
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Originally posted by zerksies
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Originally posted by natthu
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Originally posted by zerksies
Ok you win that round but a in tune guitar is a happy guitar
Playing in tune is definitely important. I'm with Zerksies on that one. But all this discussion makes me wonder how accurate the human ear is? Can you hear if one string is 0.02 cents out of tune? I'm not sure I can but I'm guessing everyone has different levels of ability...
Actually i can hear it.My acoustic is out about .2 cents and it is driving me nuts, My stewmac order should be here tomorrow. i bought a couple blanks
agreed!!!!...my ears are a curse to me...i've been told by at least 3 engineers that those little nuisances don't exist i.e.(you're hearing sh*t)....only to return to the studio days later and isolate the tracks to show them my ears do not lie!...I get "how in the hell did you hear that?" alot. |
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
756 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2009 : 02:03:22
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Hey Zerksies & Brutalitarian Supremacy,
I guess I'm just lucky that my ears don't allow me to hear all that stuff! I'm not tone deaf, but a tuner (I use a TU-12) is a bit more accurate than if I tune by ear...
On a side note - I do notice that 'digital squelch' you get when listening to mp3's and it drives me nuts. Once the sample rate is above about 256 kbps, I don't notice it so much but anything lower than 192 kbps I just can't listen to it...
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2009 : 02:21:01
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Originally posted by natthu
Hey Zerksies & Brutalitarian Supremacy,
I guess I'm just lucky that my ears don't allow me to hear all that stuff! I'm not tone deaf, but a tuner (I use a TU-12) is a bit more accurate than if I tune by ear...
On a side note - I do notice that 'digital squelch' you get when listening to mp3's and it drives me nuts. Once the sample rate is above about 256 kbps, I don't notice it so much but anything lower than 192 kbps I just can't listen to it...
you would might here something if you used a better tuner |
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archimedes
Silver Member
United Kingdom
191 Posts |
Posted - 12/24/2009 : 14:41:51
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My TU-3 arrived this morning and for me personally it is worth the upgrade, especially as I have shifted my TU-2 on eBay for a decent price. It is quicker, much easier to see what is going on and of course as advertised, more accurate. As I think I said previously I have a TU-12 that I have had for about 25 years and I always found the TU-2 a little disappointing after that (although liking the pedal function - mute etc), to the point where I sometimes felt the need to fine tune by ear after using the TU-2 which kind of defeats the object. The TU-3 fixes all that and of hopefully I'll be able to see it in the outdoor daylight in summer too with the extra bright function (which BTW is very easy to turn on and off). I can't hear any tone-suck BTW and I think I am pretty picky about that, always working from a clean sound as a base and checking by plugging direct into the amp. So I for one am happy with the TU-3.
Season's greetings to you all and thanks for all the information I have gleaned here over the last year.
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 12/24/2009 : 15:27:19
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sclitheroe
Copper Member
Canada
29 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2009 : 00:06:09
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I'm not paid to pimp the Turbo Tuner, but it just seems a bit silly to keep having this thing about tuners and accuracy when the facts are presented. I understand any discussion we can have about this or that chorus, but tuners? It comes down to a matter of money, whether you like true bypass or not and perhaps which design you like.
Good reasons for not choosing the Turbo Tuner:
It's too expensive compared to the Pitch Black or the TU-3.
You may have excess real estate on your pedal board, so you'd rather go with a StroboStomp2.
Also, you may wanna burn more money on a tuner, so again, you go with the StroboStomp2.
You may be a Boss pedal aficionado, in which case you go with the TU-3, even it it didn't tune at all.
You may need a buffer somewhere in your signal path, again, the TU-3 is for you.
You may want to daisy chain from your tuner, so you need the TU-3 or the StroboStomp2.
Enough with the funny: The Turbo Tuner is the superior product when it comes to pedal tuners.
I'm going to second this opinion on the Turbo Tuner. I didn't have a good tuner for a long time, and honestly, my guitar sounds so much better properly tuned AND intonated using the Turbo Tuner that its been worth more than any other pedal to me. I am truly impressed with the device. |
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New Pedal: TU-3
