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amoush
Copper Member

France
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Posted - 01/15/2010 :  12:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


i wonder about the parts i've put in pink.
they seem to be black in every pedal i find but look silver in mine.
as i don't know what is their name nor function ,i wonder if it might have an effect on the way the pedal sounds.

Edited by - amoush on 01/15/2010 13:00:00
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2010 :  13:28:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey amoush, the parts you are refering to are electrolitic capacitors. They may have been changed, check the solder side of the board for telltale signs.( excess rosin or burns, different color solder). As for your SN, Wow never saw that! Mysterious!
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amoush
Copper Member

France
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Posted - 01/15/2010 :  13:50:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Those capacitors have an influence on the sound or its only the toshiba opamp?

Edited by - amoush on 01/15/2010 13:50:50
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silvertone6120
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USA
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Posted - 01/15/2010 :  15:39:51  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Never saw a serial number like that either. Do you think it's possible they ran out of serial number labels during manufacturing and was advised to just stamp the serial number, doing it old school? Until more labels were available? I know it's a highly unlikely scenario, I'm just speculating...

If that is indeed the case there may be more pedals out there within close proximity of that serial number with a stamped-on number.
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2010 :  15:56:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by silvertone6120

Never saw a serial number like that either. Do you think it's possible they ran out of serial number labels during manufacturing and was advised to just stamp the serial number, doing it old school? Until more labels were available? I know it's a highly unlikely scenario, I'm just speculating...

If that is indeed the case there may be more pedals out there within close proximity of that serial number with a stamped-on number.



I think that's right on the money. I was gonna say it but you beat me to it! The font looks identical to the paper-label stamp. Really cool and unique piece!!
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amoush
Copper Member

France
15 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2010 :  17:27:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, the serial number is weird.
but does anyone has any clue with how different capacitors might or not affect the sound of the pedal.
Can it be still considered as a MIJ DS-1 or just a kind of hybrid one?
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2010 :  18:18:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've recapped several old radios because the electrolitic dries out. 2 Browning Golden Eagles and a yeasu FRG-7 from the 70's had caps out of tollerance by more the 30%. Some mod guys change em to better quality for closer to stock tollerance or to change tone. If the values are all the same it should sound close to stock. Either way it's one cool DS-1. Maybe one of a kind! Enjoy, amoush!
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verivorax
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Canada
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Posted - 01/16/2010 :  04:36:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amoush

ok, the serial number is weird.
Can it be still considered as a MIJ DS-1 or just a kind of hybrid one?



Absolutely it is an MIJ DS-1, and as PedalDan said, maybe one of a kind. I haven't seen the treadle yet - was it a long-dash too?!

It's my understanding that changing those caps should only bring the sound closer to stock - all it will lack is the sound of component drift (ie: dying caps, etc). It's not so much modification as maintenance (someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this ) Ultimately, that does affect its perceived collector value , but it has other qualities which override that..

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amoush
Copper Member

France
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Posted - 01/16/2010 :  15:04:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes, as i told earlier the pedal has long dash but it's a also strange cos it is supposed to be serial number 2XXXXX (frebruary 1983) and long dash with the D (of DS-1) under the T of distortion has been stopped around serial number 14xxx (short dash version)!

this pedal is so strange, i don't know if it's worth spending 100$ for it or if it's better to wait and find a 100% original MIJ
what do you think?

Edited by - amoush on 01/16/2010 15:48:43
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2010 :  16:03:19  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Remember this thread?
http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2704

Interesting that the DS-1 Vim Fuego discovered also had a serial number starting with 27.
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2010 :  16:23:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amoush

yes, as i told earlier the pedal has long dash but it's a also strange cos it is supposed to be serial number 2XXXXX (frebruary 1983) and long dash with the D (of DS-1) under the T of distortion has been stopped around serial number 14xxx (short dash version)!

this pedal is so strange, i don't know if it's worth spending 100$ for it or if it's better to wait and find a 100% original MIJ
what do you think?

I'd buy it. From the picture it looks like a legit Boss stamp. It's worth it for it's rarity and uniqueness!l
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Gitarr-slusken
Copper Member

Sweden
36 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2010 :  21:22:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does every Boss pedal have a serial number?
Or only Japanesee made?
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Miky
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Czech Republic
184 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2010 :  22:04:58  Show Profile  Visit Miky's Homepage  Send Miky an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gitarr-slusken

Does every Boss pedal have a serial number?
Or only Japanesee made?


All of them have. The newer ones on the back plate, the older ones inside the battery compartment. What the oldest pedals have is not exactly a serial number, but a batch number (printed inside the compartment).
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/17/2010 :  01:14:15  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miky

All of them have. The newer ones on the back plate, the older ones inside the battery compartment. What the oldest pedals have is not exactly a serial number, but a batch number (printed inside the compartment).


To be more precise, the oldest serial numbers are month numbers.
As far as we've discovered, production started with serial number 6400 which denotes November 1977. The last two digits in the 4 digit numbers are always 00.
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Gitarr-slusken
Copper Member

Sweden
36 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2010 :  01:24:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got my Boss DS-1 yesterday. I've looked at many pictuers, and alot of them shows a serial number inside the pedal, ( beside the battery-place ). But my didn't have any there, so i checked beneith the pedal and i found this line for example: LR47102.

Is this "todays" -serial number, and is it on the right "spot"?
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