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Bruno
Copper Member

France
40 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  13:49:17  Show Profile  Visit Bruno's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi all

I've just purchased a Boss Phaser PH1-r
It sounds fantastic but it seems that maybe I've a little problem with it. It increases the level when it's engaged and the bass are very strong. Is there a trimpot inside of the pedal to diminish/adjust the level of the effect?
And do you know where I could find some clips on the web to hear it, so I could compare mine???
Thanks for your help
Bruno

Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  14:02:35  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Bruno

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Regards Dr. Bob
3700

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 09/14/2008 14:02:52
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Bruno
Copper Member

France
40 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  14:06:25  Show Profile  Visit Bruno's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey
Thanks from France ;-)
Cool forum here, I'm coming from time to time (I'll post my PB in the right topic soon)
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  14:18:37  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Bruno
Is that you & your Chapman Stick?
They must be exciting to play, I have always loved the Chapman Stick.

You will have to tell us more about it.

Some chillin' laid back tunes on your MySpace..

Regards Dr. Bob
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Bruno
Copper Member

France
40 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  14:23:48  Show Profile  Visit Bruno's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey thanks for your comment. Chapman stick is a really wonderful instrument I play for 7 years, but I played bass during 7 years before switching to the Stick. The stick is more difficult than any other instrument (at least than guitar or bass) I think and it requires a lot of time (that's why I gave up the bass), but it's more rewarding and possibilities are really endless (and you're better payed at gigs, because you replace guitar& bass players) . I'll tell you more if you want when I get more time (I could talk about it for hours)
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Bruno
Copper Member

France
40 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  14:25:25  Show Profile  Visit Bruno's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you're in Australia, you maybe know this player, Andy Salvanos (I don't remember the city he's living). He's a very skilled player. You can reach him at http://www.myspace.com/andysalvanos

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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  14:33:39  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bruno

Hi all

I've just purchased a Boss Phaser PH1-r
It sounds fantastic but it seems that maybe I've a little problem with it. It increases the level when it's engaged and the bass are very strong. Is there a trimpot inside of the pedal to diminish/adjust the level of the effect?
And do you know where I could find some clips on the web to hear it, so I could compare mine???
Thanks for your help
Bruno



Hi Bruno and welcome! My PH-1R is like yours. I like it a lot, but it is overpowering. There is no trimpot inside for this. My solution is to use a small mixer and mix the incoming signal with a little of the effected signal. Sounds much nicer!
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Bruno
Copper Member

France
40 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  14:36:05  Show Profile  Visit Bruno's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What a shame! It sounds awesome, more than the MXR, but the increase level is really a problem, because I do want to keep a little and portable rig (so I won't consider buying a mixer, even tiny). Thanks for your reply Laurie
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  14:46:17  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you are only worried about the level... and can use a soldering iron, there is a simple mod you can do to drop the effected level. There is a 22k resistor connected to pin 2 of IC1. I have not done this, but raising the 22k resistor to maybe 47k would help - it will take some experimentation to find the right value.


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Bruno
Copper Member

France
40 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  15:46:47  Show Profile  Visit Bruno's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey, that sounds cool. As I'm not an electronician, I'll ask a friend of mine and/or try to get the schemes of the PH1-r. Thanks a lot!!!
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ssanyee
Silver Member

Hungary
288 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  16:36:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bruno,

Welcome to the forum!

You can see schem for PH-1r here:
http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/Boss%20PH-1r.pdf

Also you can check mine by some pictures here:
http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4147&whichpage=7

Good luck for modification but I guess it is not needed

cheers

Edited by - ssanyee on 09/14/2008 16:40:56
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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 09/15/2008 :  03:30:30  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
- strange.. i have TWO 1r pedals and they don't give a serious volume or low end bottom boost like you folks describe here ... just slightly on mine. Love'em to pieces too.
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controlfreak
Silver Member

Ireland
337 Posts

Posted - 09/15/2008 :  09:51:41  Show Profile  Visit controlfreak's Homepage  Reply with Quote
glad somebody brought this up!!

yup i've the very same view on the PH-1r. It does give an audible boost to the signal and a richness in the bass. i tried running a limiter after it and it still seems to give a pronounced volume response. is there a way to set the limiter to give an even output from this?
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/16/2008 :  02:45:20  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm tooling up to build some of these:
http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5002

I want a couple for myself for my pair of PH-1R pedals. It's essentially a very clean two channel mixer (super good metallized poly caps throughout, careful bias to give lots of headroom, etc, etc... OK, I'll stop now! ... but I am proud of the design!).

Anyway, I see this as the right way to manage the PH-1R and a few other pedals I own that are a bit overpowering by themselves.
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jaymzHal
Silver Member

United Kingdom
297 Posts

Posted - 09/16/2008 :  09:18:38  Show Profile  Visit jaymzHal's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey Bruno,

Lauries idea is a good one, but you could also try putting the pedal into one of the stereo signal paths for your eventide and an EQ or boost in the other, and feed them into the other eventide pedal. Not ideal but it would save you having to worry about soldering!
Speaking of which, what do you think of the Time Factor delay? I'm after a longer delay pedal since I'm only using a DM-2 at the moment - a fantastic pedal but just doesn't quite have enough delay time for some applications.
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Some Weird Sin
Bronze Member

Netherlands
73 Posts

Posted - 09/16/2008 :  13:57:18  Show Profile  Visit Some Weird Sin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starr36

- strange.. i have TWO 1r pedals and they don't give a serious volume or low end bottom boost like you folks describe here ... just slightly on mine. Love'em to pieces too.



My PH-1r doesn't give any level or lo-end boost whatsoever, as far as I can tell. Unlike my MXR phaser.

(I like the PH-1r's adjustability, but I decided the other day that Iprefer my phase 90 soundwise)
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