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tornadobox
Copper Member

USA
20 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2007 :  16:58:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All,

I'm looking into getting either an RC-2 or RC-20XL looper, and was wondering, if I record a clean rhythm track, can I then play over that track with distortion (from pedals) and still have the track I recorded come through the amp clean, or will the distortion pedal distort the signal coming from the looper? I have no effects loop, so that's not an option.

Thanks!

Erik dP
Silver Member

Sweden
150 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2007 :  17:33:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As long as you keep the amp itself clean. I currently own a VOX DA5 with no effect loop and use external dist pedals for distortion. I will add an effect loop (use line out as send/return) which seems to work fine when I did a test with some tape. The DA5 sounds really good through a 4*12 so I sold off my 20 times stronger GK amp.
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shortpunks
Copper Member

USA
47 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2007 :  17:53:09  Show Profile  Visit shortpunks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Also make sure that you put your Loop Station last in your pedal chain and you won't have any trouble. I run my RC-2 last so that the loops I use are clean but I can add reverb and overdrive to my guitar signal. My chain looks like this: guitar --> BD-2 Blues Driver --> RV-3 Reverb/Delay --> RC-2 Loop Station. And as Erik mentioned, be sure to keep the amp clean and your loops will be clean, too, but you can distort your guitar as much as you want.
One other trick...if you place a pedal like the RV-3 with stereo outs just before the RC-2, you can run the Loop/guitar signal to one amp and just the guitar signal to a second amp! (I have a tiny old Ampeg solid state practice amp I use for the RC-2 sometimes).
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Erik dP
Silver Member

Sweden
150 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2007 :  20:22:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...I think only RC-2 have a built in drum machine. RC-20XL does not. (Right, someone?)
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2007 :  07:19:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes there is a primitive drummashine in RC-2, about 30 different patterns. You can change the tempo and the level but nothing more.
Sounds quite good and usable.

Edited by - Goran on 02/16/2007 07:19:33
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diggum12
Silver Member

USA
282 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2007 :  22:43:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well to clarify, neither one has a drum "machine"

They both have drum tracks that you can upload to the unit.
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Erik dP
Silver Member

Sweden
150 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2007 :  14:57:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Upload to unit" sounds like something needs to be attached. Well, to clarify even more: I do have RC-2, and before you make a loop you choose between about 30 pre-made drum patterns. I'm not sure whether RC-20XL has this built-in drum tracks.
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seagullc
Copper Member

2 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2009 :  18:51:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a Boss RC-20XL it's great but I hate the metronome sounds they have on the pedal. Is it possible to change these up with sound clips from the computer or anything like that? I want to put a swing drum loop on the pedal.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2009 :  18:53:33  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi seagullc

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Regards Dr. Bob
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seagullc
Copper Member

2 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2009 :  23:09:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bob, thanks for the welcome

Just registered here to ask about that Boss pedal. It would really be great if I could change the metronome sounds, it's tough to get a swing feel going with a straight quarter metronome going. Would be great if I could have it loop a jazz drum track.
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glama
Copper Member

4 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2009 :  03:00:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just bought an rc-2 looper pedal, but it doesnt seem to do the basic thing I want. I want to record a phrase, then have it play back while I solo over it, then I want to record a new phase over the old one, and then have the new one play back while i solo over it. I want to do this in "real time", with no "seams" between phrases.

This would seem to me to be the most basic functionality of a looper pedal, as it would emulate the structure of a song, allowing you to record and play with an intro, verse, bridge, chorus.. But as far as I can tell, the pedal cant do it. Its a "one trick pony", and by that I mean it is designed to let you play with one phrase, and then you must "stop the show" to either lean down and change the phrase knob to a new phrase (very uncool), or delete what you just recorded by holding down the pedal for 2 seconds, during which time the phrase starts to play to your audience! (Very uncool!)

Am I wrong? Is there a way to do what I want?

Thanks for any help.
Phil
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glama
Copper Member

4 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2009 :  03:04:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I should clarify that when i say I want to "record a new phase over the old one", I mean I want to replace the old phrase with the new one, not create another layer over the original phrase.
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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2009 :  03:56:39  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by glama

I should clarify that when i say I want to "record a new phase over the old one", I mean I want to replace the old phrase with the new one, not create another layer over the original phrase.



hey glama ... all u gotta do is hold the pedal down, wait for it blink amber really fast and then it will erase your current track.

u gotta have a manual to use this baby!
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glama
Copper Member

4 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2009 :  04:04:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey starr,
Thanks for the help. I was just scouring the manual and found what youre talking about. I didnt realize you could delete the phrase in temporary memory while its playing back. To do this seamlessly will take some practice! You have to know where you are in the loop, then take your foot off after holding down for 2 seconds, and immediately press the pedal again as you start playing your next phrase. Tricky, but I'll start practicing. Thanks for your help!!

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ovrdrv123
Bronze Member

USA
143 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2009 :  05:21:00  Show Profile  Visit ovrdrv123's Homepage  Send ovrdrv123 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The RC-2, the first Boss pedal i ever owned. A breakthrough in compact looping power technology. i use it only for practice or fun/non-serious performance, but it's a GREAT tool. You can match volume on recorded tracks as well as the drums, this pedal is the RC-20XL simplified. i highly recommend the RC-2 because it is an ultra-compact pedal and it's features rival that of it's big brother pedals. you can delete tracks by holding the pedal down for 3 seconds at a time. you can do even more with this pedal if you have an expression pedal (such as slow tracks or speed their tempo). don't wait, buy the original... the one and only, the authentic Boss!!
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2009 :  07:04:14  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi glama & Guys

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

Fit the optional FS-6 or a pair of FS-5 foot switches.
You will have even greater functionality than the RC-20(XL).

If you are going to but or make your own home brew foot switches.
Be aware that the switches have to be:
Momentary types & most importantly, they have to be:
Normally closed.

Any other types, will give you a really big headache.

Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 10/27/2009 07:06:11
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