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Mesjoggah
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Netherlands
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  13:11:38  Show Profile  Click to see Mesjoggah's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Today i received a NF-1 silver screw, long dash, clear switch, momentary led but couldn't find a serial number. This has to be stamped in but there's nothing there, i even looked with a magnifier to see if there would be any traces of one but there isn't.

I think it's one of the earliest models because of the full solder traces!















Paper but no foam?






Edited by - Mesjoggah on 12/03/2008 23:15:20

verivorax
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Canada
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  13:22:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hell yeah, that's damn early for an NF-1.. Bossarea says production started ~Feb 79 (#7900), and by 8700-8800 the clear switches were gone.. so you have a good 8-9 month range for production.

I didn't see any clear "78" or "79" on any of the pot codes which might indicate a week of production for those, or on the IC.

Maybe the PCB became more refined before the switch-changeover, does anyone have an early SS NF-1 to compare??

but damn, that's a nice pedal.
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gurran1928
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Sweden
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  13:48:00  Show Profile  Visit gurran1928's Homepage  Click to see gurran1928's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That's very nice. I like these mysteries when something is what it should'nt be like.. Any theories?
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sp-1
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Germany
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  14:06:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice one
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Dirk
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Netherlands
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  17:05:33  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As far as the paper goes, I used to have a BF-2b that used a piece of cardboard instead.

Nice pedal Mesjoggah

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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  04:03:36  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Are those old traces soldered by hand?
Wow
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nathanscribe
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  11:23:07  Show Profile  Visit nathanscribe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag

Are those old traces soldered by hand?
Wow



I doubt it... the layout will be hand-drawn, but I expect it's dipped. I have an RS-101 stringer and there's a huge board done like that - thick tracks. Looks amazing.
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Mesjoggah
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Netherlands
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  11:34:46  Show Profile  Click to see Mesjoggah's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Almost forgot, the question i keep asking myself is if anybody knows of a ink stamped serial that had been completely gone?
Could it be washed away when someone cleaned the pedal in the past?
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  11:57:52  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Someone here mentioned a TW-1 earlier where the serial had completely washed away. It is a bit surprising that there are a few pedals completely without a serial but none with partially washed away serials. That indicates that these pedals might not ever have been stamped.
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  12:36:52  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi bossarea & Guys

If you recall, you helped me out, with my SS BF-2 S/N,
when I was a Noob, on the forum.

The very last (0) in the ink pad serial is very badly faded, & illegible
except for under polarized light.
The S/N reads 040 but is actually 0400 Mar81.

I guess it was faded from 20+ years of storage under my mates house,
with a slowly leaking Panasonic Battery still in it.

I think thee is a pic of it somewhere?

I suggest trying to look at it Under:
UV light.
Infra Red light - or photo.
Polarized light.
Bright noon-daylight, at different angles, a bit like a CSI investigation.

Even take a few digital pics of the area, & do a negative reversal of
it in some paint/photo shop type graphic application.
Even try using the "edge" (find edges) filters. (not Edge from U2 )

Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 12/07/2008 13:28:40
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Dirk
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Netherlands
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  12:53:36  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And charish the value of the wise lessons tought to us by Dr. Bob, Private Investigator.
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2008 :  13:39:53  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dirk

And charish the value of the wise lessons tought to us by Dr. Bob, Private Investigator.


Hi Dirk & Guys

Apologies for hijacking the thread.

Here is the DF-2 serial that started all of this.
I think a leaky battery was the main cause, of the faded serial.

Every so often I have another attempt, at trying to figure out what the serial was...

Regards Dr. Bob



Back to topic.

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 12/07/2008 13:40:58
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nathanscribe
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  15:07:10  Show Profile  Visit nathanscribe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hmm, back off topic for a sec, if I tip my laptop up so the screen polarises, those last 4 digits look like 4800 to me...
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  15:41:29  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nathanscribe

Hmm, back off topic for a sec, if I tip my laptop up so the screen polarises, those last 4 digits look like 4800 to me...


Thanks for your reply nathanscribe

After many hours in photolab type apps, that's pretty much my findings as well.

Now I just need the other 2 digits.
Perhaps Bossarea has probable range of numbers for the DF-2 pedal.

And for those that have been following my Ixus 400 Camera dilemma.
It looks like I might have it back on Monday.
So I will attempt to take some pics in other lighting conditions.

BTW It's an MIJ, Super Feedbacker & Distortion.

Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 12/07/2008 15:56:50
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  15:42:17  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe the sticker fell off?
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  16:33:36  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

The very last (0) in the ink pad serial is very badly faded, & illegible except for under polarized light.
The S/N reads 040 but is actually 0400 Mar81.


Oh yes, I've completely forgot about that

An MIJ DF-2 SF&D will have a serial between
50xx00 and xA7xxxx
The DF-2 in question here has the old type of serial number and it ends with 00 and that narrows down the span to 50xx00 to 78xx00 (although there's a 1/100 chance it could be 79xxxx-99xxxx).
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