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dacreed
Copper Member

23 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2007 :  21:56:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello guys. im wondering does anybody here have ever modded any of pedal listed as in the subject? Im a newbie in this area but i would like to try out modding the pedal to my liking because currently i think my CS3 is loosing out of touch. It doesnt sound transparent at all and if you tweak the sustain knob to max the hiss is pretty loud and annoying. Can anyone tell me what are the option to get it sound much more transparent and at the same time getting rid off the hiss sound?

I've seen solder iron before but no idea of how to use it tho(no electrical background). Hope to hear from you all soon.

Thank you

ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2007 :  22:23:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CS-3 http://springdayshadow0.tripod.com/

it adds more bottom end, for the ultimate quietness, change c4, c14, c17, and c6 1uf electrolytic caps in the pedal to 1uf metal film, or just regular 1uf film caps.

good luck, and welcome to the forum
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dacreed
Copper Member

23 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2007 :  18:26:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChristoMephisto

CS-3 http://springdayshadow0.tripod.com/

it adds more bottom end, for the ultimate quietness, change c4, c14, c17, and c6 1uf electrolytic caps in the pedal to 1uf metal film, or just regular 1uf film caps.

good luck, and welcome to the forum



Hello there,

Im interested to know more about modding pedal effect especially on
the Boss CS3 unit. I did some research on the CS3 modded unit and there
are quite numbers of modder out there. To name same of them like
indyguitarist, montellalum and humphrey. They all have different ways of
modding pedal and what not. Im just curious whether or not your modded
version sound similar to anyone of them? Do you have any other modification
version of this beside the link given? Most
importantly, does your CS3 unit produce any hiss after been modded because i
know mine is annoying especially when the sustain knob tweaked to max.
Btw, my unit never been modded. So im thinking of doing it. I also no
basic idea on the components stuffs.

I would also love to hear some of the sound clip that you might have
on this particular unit. my unit setup is : guitar(humbuckle pup)-boss
SD2- boss CE5- boss CS3- Amp.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thank you
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2007 :  23:50:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I double checked that that mod link i sent and it is the indyguitarist version. Google found it for me in 0.16 sec.
RTM, turning the Sustain knob too much will cause howling and distortion, try bring it back down to about 6-8.
Place your compressor before your chorus. I own a CS-2 and keep it in front of my overdrive, but after my 'wah' effects.
try some of the sample settings in the forums home page


funny typo in the CS-3 manual, it says 'counterclickwise' for the sustain in the Operation

Edited by - ChristoMephisto on 08/15/2007 23:55:00
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dacreed
Copper Member

23 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2007 :  06:19:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah. so basically yours is the vintage one. how cool. Guess you dont have to perform any mod on the pcb board, arent you??
Have you ever tried both units at the same time and distinct the sound?? CS2 and CS3. In you opinion, should or shouldnt i perform any mod on this particular unit?

Btw you mentioned that altho CS3 unit has been modded the sustain if tweak to max still creating the hiss is it? didnt get you on that one.

Cheers
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2007 :  16:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thinking about modding my cs-2. Maybe when the cold weather hits.
Not sure if modding the pedal will help the hiss when you crank the Sustain. You might get less if you place the overdrive after, less gain in to the compressor. I still get minor hiss with my Sustain cranked.
A comp can work before or after an overdrive, let your ears decide.

Anyone have a modded CS-3 indy style?

oh, there is a Vibrato mod for the CE-5, but don't know which resistor to toggle...
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dacreed
Copper Member

23 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2007 :  02:48:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChristoMephisto

Thinking about modding my cs-2. Maybe when the cold weather hits.
Not sure if modding the pedal will help the hiss when you crank the Sustain. You might get less if you place the overdrive after, less gain in to the compressor. I still get minor hiss with my Sustain cranked.
A comp can work before or after an overdrive, let your ears decide.

Anyone have a modded CS-3 indy style?

oh, there is a Vibrato mod for the CE-5, but don't know which resistor to toggle...



Thanks for the info. I Really appreciate it. As far as the hearing concern, i still think that this pedal need some touch up.


yes there's a vibrato setting for CE-5. Does anybody here able to differentiate the big differences between the CE2,3 over CE5. Im currently play on Boss CE5( which is close to CE2,3) analog pcb not CE5A.

Any idea guys? or any solution for CS3?

Cheers
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dacreed
Copper Member

23 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2007 :  04:24:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChristoMephisto

CS-3 http://springdayshadow0.tripod.com/

it adds more bottom end, for the ultimate quietness, change c4, c14, c17, and c6 1uf electrolytic caps in the pedal to 1uf metal film, or just regular 1uf film caps.

good luck, and welcome to the forum



I need clarification regarding this matter. The link that you attached here is indy guitarist mod isnt it? what about the recommendation for of ultimate quiteness? I didnt get the whole pic..is it a combination that sort of thing bro?

Cheers
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2007 :  05:30:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeppers, swapping the caps for the same value is from the book i have.
the site only lists parts to mod it with.

Do you still get the hiss when your sustain is down to 6-8?
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2007 :  16:24:40  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChristoMephisto

Thinking about modding my cs-2. Maybe when the cold weather hits.
Not sure if modding the pedal will help the hiss when you crank the Sustain. You might get less if you place the overdrive after, less gain in to the compressor. I still get minor hiss with my Sustain cranked.
A comp can work before or after an overdrive, let your ears decide.

Anyone have a modded CS-3 indy style?

oh, there is a Vibrato mod for the CE-5, but don't know which resistor to toggle...



Sacralige & blasphemy, yea shall burn in the hottest fires in hell, for Eternity & an extra day.
All thou children, shall be burdened with the knowledge that their father committed the never spoken of 11th SIN.
And be born with goats hooves feet.

Ah sorry Chriso, I just a bit carried away. if you do mod it, just say 7 Hail Mary's.

Sell me the CS-2 before you mod it, & all will be forgiven..

Regards Dr. Bob.
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dacreed
Copper Member

23 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  10:34:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChristoMephisto

yeppers, swapping the caps for the same value is from the book i have.
the site only lists parts to mod it with.

Do you still get the hiss when your sustain is down to 6-8?



I havent tried it out yet. Maybe some other day because im kinda buzy lately. But ya i will perform mod if there are some ppl here would be kind enough to share their experience on modded unit. I will let you know once the unit is modded.

Btw, thanks for sharing me your thought and what not.

Cheers

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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  13:39:19  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Dacreed

Are you also Dacreed81 who wrote to me in private mail?

If you are,
I feel that you should at least have entered a return reply/email into your user profile.
I don't mind answering your DD-3 tech problems, but I feel that it would be more conducive to the forum & it's members if you posted up the pics & questions about your faulty DD-3, here on the forum.

There are many knowledgeable people here, & you might find that you get better responses & more of them, if you let all of us try to help you.

I was also reluctant to reply to you, as under the dacreed81 user profile, you have no posts against your name.
As well as the conflict in the two similar names.

Please don't think that I am angry or telling you off in any way, far from it, it's just that we reside here on the forum as a community, for all of us, to help & learn from each other.

For example, Goran, Stinkfoot, Christo, Indy, Discofreq and too many others to mention, have even taught an old dog like myself, many new things, about pedal repair & setups.

Like many of us, in support, we receive many many request for help in a week, in our private mailboxes, so please understand, that it makes more sense to reply once on this forum, than it does to reply to the same request, over & over again, from our Private mailboxes.

Not to mention, that Bossarea has an easy & extensive search function built into the forum,
and we have most likely covered similar, if not the same ground, in previous threads & postings.

So please post up your questions & request here on the forum, before sending us a PM for help.
Even Ask Goran & others, (Hi Goran).
Just recently, we have helped remotely fix his, & many other pedals here on the forum, and we did it as a community.

If you are not dacreed81, I sincerely apologize for this post.
And my words which might sound harsh.
As this was specifically directed to dacreed81.

So Please post your pics & questions here, & let us all help you.

Regards Dr. Bob,
Who just sounds & types angry, but isn't.

PS- Guys, Yes I'm still approachable

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 08/20/2007 13:46:53
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  15:48:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


didn't think I would hear you cring from half way around the world
ya, don't have any intention of modding my cs-2, or ce-2 either
just wanted to get a rise outta ya

the cs-3 seems to be the second most common pedal I see being sold second hand, next to the mt-2

cheers without jeers
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dacreed
Copper Member

23 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  16:08:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi Dacreed

Are you also Dacreed81 who wrote to me in private mail?

If you are,
I feel that you should at least have entered a return reply/email into your user profile.
I don't mind answering your DD-3 tech problems, but I feel that it would be more conducive to the forum & it's members if you posted up the pics & questions about your faulty DD-3, here on the forum.

There are many knowledgeable people here, & you might find that you get better responses & more of them, if you let all of us try to help you.

I was also reluctant to reply to you, as under the dacreed81 user profile, you have no posts against your name.
As well as the conflict in the two similar names.

Please don't think that I am angry or telling you off in any way, far from it, it's just that we reside here on the forum as a community, for all of us, to help & learn from each other.

For example, Goran, Stinkfoot, Christo, Indy, Discofreq and too many others to mention, have even taught an old dog like myself, many new things, about pedal repair & setups.

Like many of us, in support, we receive many many request for help in a week, in our private mailboxes, so please understand, that it makes more sense to reply once on this forum, than it does to reply to the same request, over & over again, from our Private mailboxes.

Not to mention, that Bossarea has an easy & extensive search function built into the forum,
and we have most likely covered similar, if not the same ground, in previous threads & postings.

So please post up your questions & request here on the forum, before sending us a PM for help.
Even Ask Goran & others, (Hi Goran).
Just recently, we have helped remotely fix his, & many other pedals here on the forum, and we did it as a community.

If you are not dacreed81, I sincerely apologize for this post.
And my words which might sound harsh.
As this was specifically directed to dacreed81.

So Please post your pics & questions here, & let us all help you.

Regards Dr. Bob,
Who just sounds & types angry, but isn't.

PS- Guys, Yes I'm still approachable




yup im also known as dacreed81. Dont feel like revealing the real name so i just use my other nickname for some security reason. Regarding the communities thingy, i apologise and yeah i get what you mean too. Thanks for the correction. I really appreciate it. Initially i wanted to address this problem to Boss support center but i just dont know how. I couldnt find their email address so i guess you might be my last resource. please accept my apology. Hope this will clear off thing..

Cheers
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dacreed
Copper Member

23 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  16:10:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi Dacreed

Are you also Dacreed81 who wrote to me in private mail?

If you are,
I feel that you should at least have entered a return reply/email into your user profile.
I don't mind answering your DD-3 tech problems, but I feel that it would be more conducive to the forum & it's members if you posted up the pics & questions about your faulty DD-3, here on the forum.

There are many knowledgeable people here, & you might find that you get better responses & more of them, if you let all of us try to help you.

I was also reluctant to reply to you, as under the dacreed81 user profile, you have no posts against your name.
As well as the conflict in the two similar names.

Please don't think that I am angry or telling you off in any way, far from it, it's just that we reside here on the forum as a community, for all of us, to help & learn from each other.

For example, Goran, Stinkfoot, Christo, Indy, Discofreq and too many others to mention, have even taught an old dog like myself, many new things, about pedal repair & setups.

Like many of us, in support, we receive many many request for help in a week, in our private mailboxes, so please understand, that it makes more sense to reply once on this forum, than it does to reply to the same request, over & over again, from our Private mailboxes.

Not to mention, that Bossarea has an easy & extensive search function built into the forum,
and we have most likely covered similar, if not the same ground, in previous threads & postings.

So please post up your questions & request here on the forum, before sending us a PM for help.
Even Ask Goran & others, (Hi Goran).
Just recently, we have helped remotely fix his, & many other pedals here on the forum, and we did it as a community.

If you are not dacreed81, I sincerely apologize for this post.
And my words which might sound harsh.
As this was specifically directed to dacreed81.

So Please post your pics & questions here, & let us all help you.

Regards Dr. Bob,
Who just sounds & types angry, but isn't.

PS- Guys, Yes I'm still approachable




yup im also known as dacreed81. Dont feel like revealing the real name so i just use my other nickname for some security reason. Regarding the communities thingy, i apologise and yeah i get what you mean too. Thanks for the correction. I really appreciate it. Initially i wanted to address this problem to Boss support center but i just dont know how. I couldnt find their email address so i guess you might be my last resource. please accept my apology. Hope this will clear off thing..

Cheers
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  16:49:46  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi dacreed - dacreed81

Hey thanks for understanding,
and your apology is accepted.

As I stated earlier, I'm not upset in anyway, about you sending me a PM. - We all need help.

We all understand the need, to sometimes, remain private & annon.

So please post up your pics & questions.
We really do all want to help you.

And I'm 100% sure that all the other members feel the same way.

Now getting back to the subject of helping you out:
Have you checked the polarity of the plug pack that does not work with your DD-3?
Is it a switching plug pack?
Is it a transformer (heavy) plug pack.

Also check the diameter of the hole in the plug(lead end), it might be a 2.5mm hole, and you are connecting it to a 2.1mm socket.

I have had a similar situation, what happens is that the 2.5mm hole (negative) does not connect to the 2.1mm pin in the socket, because the hole is 0.4mm larger, it seems to go in ok, but it's actually not connected to the inner pin, in the socket on the pedal.

Also is the plug a bit shorter, on the one, that does not power up the pedal?
It might not be long enough to connect to the (pos) metal tab, which also switches off the battery inside the unit, this is the larger flat metal bit in the socket on the pedal, when you look into the socket.

Also remember that the OLDER DD-3 peals run from a 12V ACA unregulated adapter not the PSA 9V regulated one.
Just something else to keep in mind.

Please send us the details (or Pics) of the specs that are printed on both of your adapters & what is written on the sticker next to the DC in socket on the pedal.. ACA or PSA

The yellowish-brown glue on the board inside the pedal, it there to stop the ribbon cables from pulling out or breaking off, of the Board easily, it acts as a type of strain relief.
Boss do this even now on their more modern pedals

I hope this help you out.

Regards Dr. Bob
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