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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  00:48:14  Show Profile
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I purchased the two BD-2 pedals about 10 years apart. I got the first one back in the mid 90s. I never liked it for an OD, there was always this harsh and nasty high end that I couldn't dial out. However, it excels as a clean boost (volume up, gain down) and as long as I keep the tone control around 9 o'clock, it doesn't get harsh sounding.

The new BD-2 is a different story. I bought i used about 3 months ago with the intention of modding it. It sounds completely different than the other one. It actually sounds good as an OD, but terrible as a clean boost. Go figure. I'm not sure if it is the aging components in the older one, or if Boss made changes to the circuits. So far I haven't taken the time to investigate.

tung




There is may be a good explanation for this. Early BD-2, according to the schematic, came with the M5218AL opamp chip. The new one I bought a couple of months ago came with the NJM4558LD chip (see tubescreamer) and sounds terrific.

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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  01:14:34  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message
Lets show it again
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tunghaichuan
Bronze Member

USA
77 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  02:07:51  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by cctsim
There is may be a good explanation for this. Early BD-2, according to the schematic, came with the M5218AL opamp chip. The new one I bought a couple of months ago came with the NJM4558LD chip (see tubescreamer) and sounds terrific.



Thanks for the info. Your post got me curious, so I entered the serial numbers in the Boss Decoder on this site and here's what I came up with:

BD#1
SN: PU16348 made 12/05, so this is obviously the newer one.
SN: DK14680 made 8/97, so this is the older one.

I took them apart and both had the M5218AL chip in them. So it must be that the older one has aging parts.

tung




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tunghaichuan
Bronze Member

USA
77 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  02:09:29  Show Profile
That looks pretty sweet zerksies.

tung

quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

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solewheelin
Bronze Member

USA
53 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  09:08:18  Show Profile


Hi guys,
Here's an update of my board. Set up in stereo from the PN2.
The XO Worm is nice and warm sounding when the range knob is before 3:00, and the expression function is killer.
The tap-tempo is there for when I swap out the DD-2 for the Marshall Echohead which is a great pedal.
The DOD FX-17 is one of my favorite wahs.
There's also a peep (photo eye sensor) that I have connected to the PS3 for expression. Lovely.
And those little boomerang looking things on the knobs are Option Knobs. Excellent tools.
Most pedals are mounted with dismantled bike links.
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Frederick
Copper Member

Belgium
46 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  09:33:29  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by cctsim

[quote]
I purchased the two BD-2 pedals about 10 years apart. I got the first one back in the mid 90s. I never liked it for an OD, there was always this harsh and nasty high end that I couldn't dial out. However, it excels as a clean boost (volume up, gain down) and as long as I keep the tone control around 9 o'clock, it doesn't get harsh sounding.

tung




I have a BD-2 from around 1997, my very first pedal ever , and I have never had any problems with it having a 'harsh and nasty high end'. Both with my Strat and my LP it sounds just fine with the tone knob at noon. Gives me that tube amp break up at bearable volume levels.
Maybe it's because I play it through a very warm Fender tube amp?
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tunghaichuan
Bronze Member

USA
77 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2009 :  18:13:07  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Frederick

quote:
Originally posted by cctsim

[quote]
I purchased the two BD-2 pedals about 10 years apart. I got the first one back in the mid 90s. I never liked it for an OD, there was always this harsh and nasty high end that I couldn't dial out. However, it excels as a clean boost (volume up, gain down) and as long as I keep the tone control around 9 o'clock, it doesn't get harsh sounding.

tung




I have a BD-2 from around 1997, my very first pedal ever , and I have never had any problems with it having a 'harsh and nasty high end'. Both with my Strat and my LP it sounds just fine with the tone knob at noon. Gives me that tube amp break up at bearable volume levels.
Maybe it's because I play it through a very warm Fender tube amp?



I'm starting to think it is just something wrong with that particular pedal. The newer one I have is identical to it, but it sounds much better.

I had bought the new one with the intention of modding it but it sounds so good, that I think I'll leave well enough alone.

I thought about "fixing" the older one, but it sounds so good as a clean boost, I think I'll just leave it as is, too.

tung
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warwick.hoy
Bronze Member

USA
80 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2009 :  11:21:41  Show Profile  Visit warwick.hoy's Homepage
Sorry it took me a bit to reply...Mansun....PM sent via e-mail. The pedal board is the GPT-BL-PWR which translates to Gator Pedal Tote-Black-Powered. I'm not sure if I'll outgrow this PB though. I'll be looking into Pedal Train or Lyt Pedalboards should that happen.

quote:
Originally posted by Mansun

quote:
Originally posted by warwick.hoy
Here is an old pic for the new thread. It will be getting an update soon however.



The OC-2 I'm most proud of. MIJ 1982



Hi! I'm a new poster but a long time reader. I've seen your evolution but recently I noticed the pedalboard itself. Is it a Gator FL one? Is it powered? If not, how do you power your pedals? I'm thinking of buying a harley benton power plant with a Gator FL pedalboard.

Thanks!


Edited by - warwick.hoy on 04/18/2009 11:23:06
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tunghaichuan
Bronze Member

USA
77 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2009 :  17:18:03  Show Profile
I like that SD-2, I hope to get one of those soon.

tung


quote:
Originally posted by warwick.hoy

Sorry it took me a bit to reply...Mansun....PM sent via e-mail. The pedal board is the GPT-BL-PWR which translates to Gator Pedal Tote-Black-Powered. I'm not sure if I'll outgrow this PB though. I'll be looking into Pedal Train or Lyt Pedalboards should that happen.

quote:
Originally posted by Mansun

quote:
Originally posted by warwick.hoy
Here is an old pic for the new thread. It will be getting an update soon however.



The OC-2 I'm most proud of. MIJ 1982



Hi! I'm a new poster but a long time reader. I've seen your evolution but recently I noticed the pedalboard itself. Is it a Gator FL one? Is it powered? If not, how do you power your pedals? I'm thinking of buying a harley benton power plant with a Gator FL pedalboard.

Thanks!



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Bruno
Copper Member

France
40 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2009 :  18:06:48  Show Profile  Visit Bruno's Homepage
Mine updated (exit the Eventide TimeFactor and welcome DD7)




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DasBeef
Gold Member

United Kingdom
704 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2009 :  18:46:00  Show Profile  Visit DasBeef's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by tunghaichuan

I like that SD-2, I hope to get one of those soon.

tung


quote:
Originally posted by warwick.hoy

Sorry it took me a bit to reply...Mansun....PM sent via e-mail. The pedal board is the GPT-BL-PWR which translates to Gator Pedal Tote-Black-Powered. I'm not sure if I'll outgrow this PB though. I'll be looking into Pedal Train or Lyt Pedalboards should that happen.

quote:
Originally posted by Mansun

quote:
Originally posted by warwick.hoy
Here is an old pic for the new thread. It will be getting an update soon however.



The OC-2 I'm most proud of. MIJ 1982



Hi! I'm a new poster but a long time reader. I've seen your evolution but recently I noticed the pedalboard itself. Is it a Gator FL one? Is it powered? If not, how do you power your pedals? I'm thinking of buying a harley benton power plant with a Gator FL pedalboard.

Thanks!







Get an SD-2. It's definatley one of my favourites. I have an OD-2r, and I'm not that into it. The SD-2 blows it away!
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Mansun
Gold Member

Spain
564 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2009 :  22:04:42  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by warwick.hoy

Sorry it took me a bit to reply...Mansun....PM sent via e-mail. The pedal board is the GPT-BL-PWR which translates to Gator Pedal Tote-Black-Powered. I'm not sure if I'll outgrow this PB though. I'll be looking into Pedal Train or Lyt Pedalboards should that happen.


Thank you! I thought so, I'm deciding between the powered Gator or the empty one along with a Harley Benton Power Plant. Thanks to the link you've e-mailed me now I see how this bag is designed (the previous shots I've seen are not enough close), and the way it mounts the power brick. I hope I can use those four screws for the Harley, and if I can't I'll use velcro instead.
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warwick.hoy
Bronze Member

USA
80 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2009 :  00:16:02  Show Profile  Visit warwick.hoy's Homepage
Love the SD-2....I still need to get a latching footswitch to get the full capabilities out of it. I thought about get a Loop-Master footswitch. They are spendy but have a smaller footprint than the Boss FS-5L/U.

Here is a mod as recommended by B.A. (Boss Area) user Mesjoggah in the SD-2 Thread. I think you can source schematics from the web.

quote:
Originally posted by Mesjoggah
I didn't read your thread but found out just last week that the SD-2 has a lot of fans amongst bas players, especially when its modded for bas use.

Here's the mod:

Mod A; more clarity;
Replace C34 / C13 / C9 / C18 / C43 and C22 with it's better quality replacements

Mod B; tubescreamer:

- Remove C36, C46, C47 and R49; replace this with an 1 uF NP cap (the start of C36 and the end of C46 are so close you can fit in a cap quite easily)
- Replace D4 with a silicon diode
- Replace D6 + D7 with one 1N400X diode
- Replace C28 with a 220 nF cap
- Replace R37 with a 4.7k resistor and run one end to Vref (which is on one side of R51; close. You can use the leftover traces of D6 / D7 to overcome the small distance without short circuiting
- Replace C12 with a 1 uF NP cap


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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member

United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2009 :  10:50:59  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by warwick.hoy

Love the SD-2....I still need to get a latching footswitch to get the full capabilities out of it. I thought about get a Loop-Master footswitch. They are spendy but have a smaller footprint than the Boss FS-5L/U.



You could make yourself a tiny one for a fraction of the cost - They are just about the simplest DIY job and well worth the (minimal) effort involved.

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Witloofboer
Gold Member

Belgium
513 Posts

Posted - 04/20/2009 :  19:15:54  Show Profile
Hey Solewheelin, how does that Maxon AF-9 (in your avatar) sound?
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