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brannon67
Copper Member

USA
18 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 :  23:49:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Im thinking about adding the Compression Sustainer to my rig. Do you guys recommend it? If so, why? If not, Why?

zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 :  23:52:41  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I have one in my rig but it is a monte allums opto plus mod. i play country ans you need one in country music. i have the modded one cause the regular is a good pedal but it is a little noisy.
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brannon67
Copper Member

USA
18 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2008 :  23:54:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it good for rock or mayby some jazz fusion. I borrowed my friends, and I liked it. I could tell a litle difference, but Im debating on getting on for my personal rig. ever use the noise suppressor? Is it worth it?
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  03:10:29  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brannon67

Is it good for rock or mayby some jazz fusion. I borrowed my friends, and I liked it. I could tell a litle difference, but Im debating on getting on for my personal rig. ever use the noise suppressor? Is it worth it?

i definetly use a noise supressor. i have fenders and the are totally noisy but great tone. so i just started using it recently. i got good tone without noise.I think you can use the cs-3 in any situation just how you dial in the pedal. i mean i would set the pedal up diffrently for rock or jazz
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
Silver Member

USA
270 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  03:43:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
don't buy a CS-3...noisy and harsh compaired to the CS-2...CS-2's are one of the warmest comps. i've heard and usually go for around $80 on ebay...I have both and running side by side there a HUGE difference...just my two cents
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  03:55:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
+1 on the CS-2. Delicious. Find one if you can. Then hold on tight.

The CS-1 is great for uber-squish - but it takes over your tone.

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outside of Boss.. I like the Guyatone ST-2 - smooth and lets you blend in some unaffected signal. Also tiny.
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Disco Stu
Silver Member

USA
303 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  03:59:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was fooling around with my CS-3 earlier this evening, after ignoring it for quite some time. Still not sure if it's something I need to keep around or whether to resell it.

So, any good suggestions for settings on this pedal?

Thanks
--Disco Stu
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  04:13:06  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Depends what your using it for..... a setting i like(as Dirk as well from the pics of his CS-3 i've seen)is volume 75%.... tone 55%.... attack up full...sustain about 30/35 %......i use this for a clean boost for chickin' pickin' type stuff and to push the crunch channel on my SD twin tube....

Edited by - FRANZONI on 12/05/2008 04:13:42
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Disco Stu
Silver Member

USA
303 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  04:23:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Franzoni --

I will try that and see how it works.

- Disco Stu
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  07:27:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

Depends what your using it for..... a setting i like(as Dirk as well from the pics of his CS-3 i've seen)is volume 75%.... tone 55%.... attack up full...sustain about 30/35 %......i use this for a clean boost for chickin' pickin' type stuff and to push the crunch channel on my SD twin tube....


I have always liked CS-2 more than CS-3, and �fought� for CS-2 on this forum.
A week ago I sold my Route 66 pedal, it has a very good compressor in it, so I was out of a compressor. As I have all Boss models I really tested them hard, side by side.
CS-1 pumps like hell, but has a nice fat tone to it. But I don�t want that much noticeable effect.
CS-2 sounds very good, warm and nice. It�s good.
The real surprise was CS-3, at higher sustain settings it don�t sound very good, the attack is very suppressed, it sound synthetic. But if I have the settings about that Franzoni use this pedal sounds really good with lots of gain if needed. And I don�t like to �hear� a compressor but like to push the front end with one, so CS-3 used moderately is a quite good compressor.

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solewheelin
Bronze Member

USA
53 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  09:23:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a beat up CS3 from 1988 that takes the ACA adaptor. It sounds good but not as squishy as later ones.

Heres the CS3 link from bossarea
http://www.bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/cs3.xml

And heres a great guide to ACA and PSA Adaptors.
http://www.stinkfoot.se/andreas/diy/articles/bossadapt.htm

I also have a very recent MIT CS3, A MINT CS2, A BMF modded Dyna Comp and an Ibanez CP10 that works well. I would like to try a CS1 eventually.

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Rid
Bronze Member

Denmark
87 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  11:13:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmm the THAT 2159 VCA chip, is that not the 9v version of the 4301?
Anyways the THAT 2150 series is dicontinued now....I am getting a CS-3 one of these days...the LM-2 is on its way one of these days.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  15:45:25  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Welome to solewheelin,rid,brannon67 from ireland.....I think as i posted and Goran said,the trick is to keep the sustain level below halfway with the CS-3 (a bit like the tone control on the DS-1) to avoid the 'squish'.....and push the volume level..i like the attack up full,it just seems to suit my clean style for a bit of snap,i'm looking for the 'sultans of swing/down to the waterline' type sound from the first Dire Straits album basically the country clean type thing... i also use it with the crunch channel on my twin tube overdrive to 'push' it wich it does very well for a less gainy,more articulate type of overdrive.. a bit like gilmours or stevie rays slightly overdriven tone with a bit of bite..i run my amps clean so the twin tube is my crunch and lead channels....BTW my CS-3 is a ACA one,but it's MIT....

Edited by - FRANZONI on 12/05/2008 15:45:58
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  17:14:00  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

Depends what your using it for..... a setting i like(as Dirk as well from the pics of his CS-3 i've seen)


I'd like to add something to this, instead of Franzoni I use it in the loop of my bass preamp to get some simulated tubecompression.
Basically we both want the same thing, (though with different instruments) we like the compression but don't want the distortion.
That's where a compressor comes in handy.

Basically, any distortion is a form of compression or if you view it from the other side, then compression is a sort of "clean distortion".
In other words, you get the same compressed feel of a driven tube amp, whilst keeping the tone clean.

My CS-3 is also modded with germanium diodes that add to the tubelike feel.
In the end all bassplayers want an SVT or other fulltube amp Until then, this pedal will suffice.

Edited by - Dirk on 12/05/2008 17:14:28
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  17:27:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
too bad SVTs are now made in Vietnam (at the same price as before) - adding an icky feeling of lost jobs and carbon footprint to every note, tube, pot and jack.

I love the old USA SVTs.

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Anyone tried the JangleBox? Or the pricey Keeley stuff?
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Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2008 :  19:51:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just wanted to note that I hate the CS-3 as previously expressed. The CS-2 however is a gem, and if the noise could only be cut down I would be all for it. I like my CS-1 as well, that is a real chickin pickin machine.

It's also worth mentioning that the CS-2 is supposedly another clone of the Ross Grey Compressor/MXR Dynacomp.

I recently acquired a Barber Parallel Compressor, and that thing is noiseless, although something crucial is lacking in it for me. I will give it more time however.

Perhaps the real problem is what I am looking for is more a "long sustain pedal". Something where I could hit a clean (non-distorted) note and let it ring out to sing over it for a bit. Compression is not really necessary.
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