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Radioheading
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Flenix
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04/09/2010 : 22:47:59
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I heard about this earlier. I hope he burns in hell :)
off topic but its on that page, a film about FACEBOOK???? wth. I knew people were obsessed (cant stand it myself) but seriously? |
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hateandwar
Gold Member
Australia
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Posted - 04/10/2010 : 07:35:54
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Let me be the first to say in advance that i think this film is going to be the worst pile of **** ever made.
I love Nirvana and have since i was a kid.
And i think that some topics just shouldnt be made into a film... |
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Pedal Dan
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USA
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Posted - 04/10/2010 : 08:13:59
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I havn't seen the vampire movies he's been in, but I get it. Ya wanna get the young generation into the story, and what better way to get some cred than to use a high profile young'n. I'd have to see it before I say it's not cool. |
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
756 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 08:42:43
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I was just starting to get into music when Grunge appeared on the scene in the early 90s. Bands like Pearl Jam, Nirvana and Soundgarden have greatly influenced my music tastes. All that 80s hair-band shred guitar stuff was just before my time, I am truly from the Grunge generation. This is why I think that it's a bit sad that they are tailoring this movie to the young kids of today rather than us oldish farts who were around for the actual thing... but I guess that's business for you. They'll no doubt make a killing on this one and as hateandwar says, It'll probably be rubbish (being of the Grunge era I don't hold a lot of hope for many things, this potential cow-pat of a movie isn't any different).
Kurt Cobain is already dead, they don't need to kill him again through the medium of bad film. |
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2010 : 08:51:02
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| As you say Natthu, We lived the story. For a movie to do good today, it has to tell the story. Kids need to hear this. Who today, or even in the last 10 years has been so influential as Cobain? I don't know if it will do good box office, but it is a cool story! |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 09:13:31
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Grungeheads unite - lets destroy... no wait that'd be too dramatic... let's whine about this film...... yeah - that'll teach them 
honestly.... killing cobain with a bad film?
just don't go and watch the movie. I know I won't... it's not that we haven't seen it all while it was happening....
but saying they shouldn't make this film for the young crowd and instead focus on the young crowd from back in the days.... that's just like... well
there was his cool documentary about Grunge / Seattle & Sub Pop and there was this young kid claiming how he hated it that all the new people listen to Nirvana now.... he's heard it first.
Or to say it with Tool:
"All you know about me is what I've sold you, Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.
I sold my soul to make a record, Dip shit, and you bought one."
or maybe not....
I give up.... I was just trying to say something sensible...
that Robinson dude should go to hell.... if he really thinks he's more of a musician than an actor he should stop making movies and make some music.... it's not that he still needs the money. |
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
756 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 09:20:29
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Originally posted by Pedal Dan
As you say Natthu, We lived the story. For a movie to do good today, it has to tell the story. Kids need to hear this. Who today, or even in the last 10 years has been so influential as Cobain? I don't know if it will do good box office, but it is a cool story!
Cobain was a tortured genius who crumbled under the weight of his own awesomeness. Kinda sad really.
Maybe you're right Dan... maybe I'm too cynical... or possibly I'm just a curmudgeon (obscure Nevermind b-side reference there...)
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 09:24:24
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Originally posted by Pedal Dan
Kids need to hear this. Who today, or even in the last 10 years has been so influential as Cobain?
It'd be sooooo funny when all those kids today go to see the movie and just think he's another Jesus impersonator.... this whole thing with Nirvana...
that was something special that only could've happened at that point in time.... they were in the right place at the right time and something magical happened... and honestly if there hadn't been Green River, Soundgarden, Mother Love Bone, Mudhoney, Tad, the Melvins, Skin Yard and all those bands to pave the way the world wouldn't have been ready
and if all those bands like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains etc.... wouldn't have followed (successwise) this whole thing would've just been one band with two or three hits..... and that would've been it.
A Film about Nirvana alone can never tell the story of what happened there.... (musically and spiritually and these are the important things..... what happened in their personal live is so fucking unimportant) and so people that never heared of Nirvana won't experience the same thing we did......
we've been here first and we're not gonna leave 
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
756 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 09:24:33
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Originally posted by MullyFX
honestly.... killing cobain with a bad film?
just don't go and watch the movie. I know I won't... it's not that we haven't seen it all while it was happening....
As a used-to-be disgrunted youth from the Grunge era, I hereby reclaim my undeserved right to whine about things that I know very little about (including this film). 
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 09:31:57
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Originally posted by natthu
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Originally posted by Pedal Dan
As you say Natthu, We lived the story. For a movie to do good today, it has to tell the story. Kids need to hear this. Who today, or even in the last 10 years has been so influential as Cobain? I don't know if it will do good box office, but it is a cool story!
Cobain was a tortured genius who crumbled under the weight of his own awesomeness. Kinda sad really.
Maybe you're right Dan... maybe I'm too cynical... or possibly I'm just a curmudgeon (obscure Nevermind b-side reference there...)
he wasn't all that tortured.... at least not until the very end
and he certainly didn't crumble under his own awesomeness...
sorry but that's just strange to read....
oh did I mention that he was no genius either.....
don't get me wrong..... I loved Nirvana growing up... hell - I still look like the dude cause I'm a Grunge Kid....
I do think however that he wasn't a genius (although his voice was and I'd agree with you if you would've said gifted as hell..... he certainly was) nor that he was really tortured - he was a funny kid until he started taking drugs.... bad move on his part but not what I would call tortured....
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 09:48:59
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Originally posted by natthu
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Originally posted by MullyFX
honestly.... killing cobain with a bad film?
just don't go and watch the movie. I know I won't... it's not that we haven't seen it all while it was happening....
As a used-to-be disgrunted youth from the Grunge era, I hereby reclaim my undeserved right to whine about things that I know very little about (including this film).
okay here's a fun quiz:
everybody that can answer more than 80% is allowed to whine....
Which band used to consist of subsequent bandmembers of Mudhoney and Pearl Jam?
Who's death led Chris Cornel to form a new band and what was the bands name?
What's the title of AliceInChains' first Album?
Has Dave Grohl ever sung the lead vocals on a Nirvana track?
When have you first heard "Smells like teen spirit"?
Who produced the penultimate Soundgarden record? |
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
756 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 10:48:11
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Originally posted by MullyFX
Which band used to consist of subsequent bandmembers of Mudhoney and Pearl Jam?
Who's death led Chris Cornel to form a new band and what was the bands name?
What's the title of AliceInChains' first Album?
Has Dave Grohl ever sung the lead vocals on a Nirvana track?
When have you first heard "Smells like teen spirit"?
Who produced the penultimate Soundgarden record?
- Green River
- Andrew Wood / Temple Of The Dog
- Facelift
- Marigold
- 1991, when it hit the charts in Australia
- Damn... don't know this one.... can I whine anyway?
Cobain was tortured by fame & popularity. Which was a side effect of his genius song writing. Maybe he wasn't a genius but he was definitely messed up, and that's where great angst ridden songs come from...
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 10:56:19
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Originally posted by natthu
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Originally posted by MullyFX
Which band used to consist of subsequent bandmembers of Mudhoney and Pearl Jam?
Who's death led Chris Cornel to form a new band and what was the bands name?
What's the title of AliceInChains' first Album?
Has Dave Grohl ever sung the lead vocals on a Nirvana track?
When have you first heard "Smells like teen spirit"?
Who produced the penultimate Soundgarden record?
- Green River
- Andrew Wood / Temple Of The Dog
- Facelift
- Marigold
- 1991, when it hit the charts in Australia
- Damn... don't know this one.... can I whine anyway?
Cobain was tortured by fame & popularity. Which was a side effect of his genius song writing. Maybe he wasn't a genius but he was definitely messed up, and that's where great angst ridden songs come from...
you dear sir are allowed to whine as much as you like....
the producer was Michael Beinhorn the record was Superunkown.
okay here's another one for you
which Seattle Grungeband Member has produced "Uncle Anesthesia" by the Screaming Trees |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 11:09:08
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Originally posted by natthu
Cobain was tortured by fame & popularity. Which was a side effect of his genius song writing. Maybe he wasn't a genius but he was definitely messed up, and that's where great angst ridden songs come from...
see that's were I beg to differ.....
he wasn't tortured by fame & popularity.... they played with the media and had loads of fun (at least in the beginning)... he may have been bored and he didn't care too much for most people coming to his shows or listening to his music.....
he may have been a tortured individual but that had nothing to do with fame or popularity.... it just didn't help is all.
My opinion is that he was simply depressive
a depressed drug addict....
oh wait...
there was this Courtney Love stuff.... yeah that didn't help as well..... they became sort of celebrities which simply was wrong.... at least for him.
that part never made it over to germany though... I only saw some of the tabloid "articles" when I had to do some grunge research for uni.
hmm.... that got me thinking....
maybe the fame got to him in the end.... but it certainly was a lot of fun for him during the Nevermind period.
still - I see your point. |
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
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Posted - 04/10/2010 : 12:19:08
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Originally posted by MullyFX
hmm.... that got me thinking....
maybe the fame got to him in the end.... but it certainly was a lot of fun for him during the Nevermind period.
still - I see your point.
Well, I guess you're right; I don't really know what his problem was... but he did write some great music though. I don't know who produced that Screaming Trees album. The only producer I can think of from that scene who is also a band member is Butch Vig... |
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Robert Pattinson to play Kurt Cobain
