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bellarum
Copper Member
USA
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 Posted - 09/01/2008 : 07:03:19
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| The OC-2 is the newest 21 yr old pedal in my collection of 32 (so far) Boss and I'm not sure where to place it in the chain. I have a distortion chain switched with an acoustic chain on my board and a DD5-HR2 in the effect loop. I've read to place it after the distortion, I've read it to be placed after the comp. Does this pedal have a sweet spot that it sounds the best? |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 08:01:32
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I have the best result with my OC-2 first in the chain, BEFORE the compressor |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 16:51:38
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Definately upfront, octavers and other pitch shifters/harmonizers like their signals pure, to generate their octaves/harmonies from.
They don't like compression/distortion and weirdo modulated sounds, it messes with their mind so to speak 
Try putting first in line, versus last in line and you'll figure it out yourself, maybe you come up with a cool sound, you'll never know. |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 17:53:04
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Originally posted by Dirk
...They don't like compression...
It really depends what sound you're going for - I always use compression in front of my OC-2: It tracks way better that way, all over the neck. However, I tend to use mine to play basslines when looping stuff. |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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the-destructor
Silver Member
USA
334 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2008 : 18:51:24
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I currently run 2 different pitch-type pedals in my setup (not OC family), but a PS-5 & an EH Pog. I wlll attest to what the others have said & also rig my pitch pedals that way, in a loop at the front of my chain. They do tend to like pure signal to do their tricks accurately. There is a compressor in that loop as well though along with a Tremolo & a Vibrato.
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Edited by - the-destructor on 09/01/2008 18:54:40 |
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bellarum
Copper Member
USA
18 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2008 : 00:29:42
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| Thanks everyone! I've gotta do the pedal shuffle and get back to ya with my results. I have a J-5 on the way to hook up to the detector in on my HR-2(that I planed on running in my amps effect loop)do you think that the J-5 might help with chaining the OC-2? I'm not sure if I'm asking the right questions. I have a board with a distortion loop and an acoustic loop A/B through a LS-2 and into the clean channel of my amp. The DD-5 is in the amps effect loop. |
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bellarum
Copper Member
USA
18 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2008 : 06:34:41
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| I re-cabled and put the OC-2 and the PH-3 ahead of the CS-3 and it made a HUGE difference! Thanks everyone! I have a whole new rig! |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 16:37:57
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I heard a compressor was recommended before a Octaver or Pitch-Shifter to stablize the signal first so they would track better. Is the world upside down?
Bellarum: are you sure just moving the PH-3 ahead of the compressor didn't do the trick? Of course we all realize that a good sound is YOUR sound, so mix it up! |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 16:51:08
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quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag
I heard a compressor was recommended before a Octaver or Pitch-Shifter to stablize the signal first so they would track better. Is the world upside down?
Bellarum: are you sure just moving the PH-3 ahead of the compressor didn't do the trick? Of course we all realize that a good sound is YOUR sound, so mix it up!
Hi DeFrag & Guys
I was under the same impression...
Some hi-end Octaver/pitch shifters, have simple compressors built into them.
Regards Dr. Bob
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 20:58:16
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When figuring out where to put a pedal in a chain, get it 'straight' in your head what the pedal is trying to electronically do and understand the RANGE of effect when used ONLY by itself. so you have a good mental sound picture of what the box does.
Generally echos you may want "LAST" because of the 'repeat'; however, putting echo pedals earlier in the chain, can yield interesting results. Pitch shifters, should be as close to the input signal, so that, (depending on the unit's design, ie. intelligent pitch shifters 'do math' on the frequency it reads accorinding to the key you select so it does the 3rds correctly' ) so you want to be sure, its getting the best and clearest input; however, fooling with one of these after a phase-shifter or chorus pedal may produce the 'just right electronica vibe you have been searching for.
And of course, it all also depends on whether you are doing clean vs overdrive, metal, experimental.
The fun thing about pedals, is their "interchangeability", before the amp, in the effects loop, only on overdrive etc, so yes, you can get a lot of different sounds depending on pedal order and pedal location ... but I really think the best place to start is to KNOW WHAT EACH INDIVIDUAL PEDAL SOUNDS ARE!
- and even though 10oclock 12 oclock 1occlock sounds "really good" on your 1980 DS-1, CHANGE IT UP, back off some distortion, add some level, roll-off some tone. Give your ears a minute to recover from "hearing hangover" and EXPERIMENT!!! |
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bellarum
Copper Member
USA
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 02:38:25
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quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag
I heard a compressor was recommended before a Octaver or Pitch-Shifter to stablize the signal first so they would track better. Is the world upside down?
Bellarum: are you sure just moving the PH-3 ahead of the compressor didn't do the trick? Of course we all realize that a good sound is YOUR sound, so mix it up!
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bellarum
Copper Member
USA
18 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2008 : 02:45:34
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| DeFrag, Sorry about that post attempt. Anyways, I did try putting the comp first and It seemed to sound better 2nd. I don't use the OC-2 and the PH-3 at the same time. Haven't actually tried.Does it matter which one is first in that case? I'll shuffle em around again and give my ears a second chance. |
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