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visserman
Platinum Member
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 Posted - 12/20/2006 : 19:57:33
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Eh what do you mean man???
Well, we all love chorus [or at least I think some of you around here do..............] and Boss happens to be very good a making fairly decent choruspedals, and chorus was, once upon a time, very popular.
In the early days of Boss many artists seemed to use chorus pedals, it was a fairly new sound in the 80s--Yes I know, people did go overboard with it, so they may have killed it for a while-----, and Boss did put some new ideas into the character of its sound.
Then in the late 80s, Grunge came along and................BANG................from there onwards we seem to go back to older sounds. Older sounds produced by modern modelling technology, but it seems that chorus is not very popular these days.
Was just listing to radio one, here in England, last night, just listening late at night to see if any of the newer popular bands were using any imaginative sounds. Any chorus? Well I guess you all know the answer eh?
Why do people not really use that much chorus these days, that while most of us here probably use it on a day to day basis??.
I even have some pupils who are not familiar with the sound of chorus. Why is that? Because the bands they listen to do not use it!! |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/20/2006 : 22:54:15
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Totally agree with that. It looks Andy Summers and Dave Gilmore isn't as influential as they used to be.
I only rarely come across new bands as I don't listen much to radio (but I do want that new Marshall DAB radio  ) or Mtv but when I do I never seem to like their guitar sounds.
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
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Posted - 12/21/2006 : 03:01:01
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Nirvana used chorus pedals, in fact 9 out of 10, if not 10 out of 10, listings for a Small Clone on eBay make some mention about Nirvana's "Come As You Are". You'd think the pedal was invented for just that song. Many bands today were influenced by Nirvana, so it is a bit strange. I think bands do use it though, just mildly, same with flanging, which is also seems not to be used as much.
Mainstream artists, to me, seem less likely to make weird noises cause you need a melody that can be easily hummed, therefore easily remembered, to make them more appealing. "Experimental noises" can possibly scare away audiences, so everything has to be pleasing to the masses. Of course there are deviations from this like U2 and Radiohead, but not everyone can write quality songs like them where the weird noises don't distract, but enhance.
Seems a lot of pitch shift, Whammy pedal, sounding stuff is popular these days...I'm just rambling, killing time while stuff is in the dryer... |
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tomwest
Silver Member
United Kingdom
436 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2006 : 12:55:16
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| I think delay is being used a bit more, especially newer post-rock bands and bands like Interpol. |
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ronster
Gold Member
Australia
645 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2006 : 12:58:44
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Maybe bands don't want to sound 'old school' by using chorus like many 80s bands did?
Don't know why, I love chorus!!!  |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 12/21/2006 : 13:26:04
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i think chorus is the best modulation. it will be around for a long time to come. with the exception of distortion, i think ALL effects have gone down in the past 10 years. then again look at the calliber of professional musicians these days.
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tomwest
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/21/2006 : 13:54:36
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Originally posted by StratoSphere
then again look at the calliber of professional musicians these days.
With the exception of a few bands, the last few years have been poor music wise. I only have to look at the current musical trends in the UK, and feel sick to the back teeth of bands like Razorlight and the Arctic Monkeys failing miserably at something Wire and Gang of Four did so well 20 years ago. I hate this current pop-rock/post punk revival thing with a vengeance. |
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arcanon1313
Silver Member
USA
414 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2006 : 22:19:39
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Originally posted by tomwest
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Originally posted by StratoSphere
then again look at the calliber of professional musicians these days.
With the exception of a few bands, the last few years have been poor music wise. I only have to look at the current musical trends in the UK, and feel sick to the back teeth of bands like Razorlight and the Arctic Monkeys failing miserably at something Wire and Gang of Four did so well 20 years ago. I hate this current pop-rock/post punk revival thing with a vengeance.
Maybe bands these days should worry more about the quality of the music they produce, than what's in there wardrobe.  |
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tomwest
Silver Member
United Kingdom
436 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2006 : 22:37:47
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Originally posted by arcanon1313
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Originally posted by tomwest
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Originally posted by StratoSphere
then again look at the calliber of professional musicians these days.
With the exception of a few bands, the last few years have been poor music wise. I only have to look at the current musical trends in the UK, and feel sick to the back teeth of bands like Razorlight and the Arctic Monkeys failing miserably at something Wire and Gang of Four did so well 20 years ago. I hate this current pop-rock/post punk revival thing with a vengeance.
Maybe bands these days should worry more about the quality of the music they produce, than what's in there wardrobe.
A very good point arcanon, I think Razorlight are known better for Johnny Borrell's white jeans+white t-shirt than their music. Oh and the fact that they're total dickheads. |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2006 : 23:43:23
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yup i agree. you dont even need talent these days. but if you look good and know people, youre set. i can play every song in the top 40 on guitar bass and drums, and that is scary cuz im not even that great at all 3. its all the same and i seriously dont understand how people dont get sick of the same song played by 40 different bands.
maybe im just getting old...
now where did i put my glasses? |
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tomwest
Silver Member
United Kingdom
436 Posts |
Posted - 12/21/2006 : 23:46:44
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Don't forget your walking stick How old actually are you? Probably not much older than my by your myspace. But yeah, it's all the same, infinately repeating a staccato chord with shitty lyrics about how mediocre things are, in a mediocre voice. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2006 : 11:09:00
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Originally posted by StratoSphere
yup i agree. you dont even need talent these days. but if you look good and know people, youre set. i can play every song in the top 40 on guitar bass and drums, and that is scary cuz im not even that great at all 3. its all the same and i seriously dont understand how people dont get sick of the same song played by 40 different bands.
maybe im just getting old...
now where did i put my glasses?
Hi StratoSphere
Next to your hearing aids, & prosthetic leg.
Remember, you don't need hearing aids to read email.
But you will need those damm glasses. 
Dr. Bob |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2006 : 13:36:13
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would you believe the glasses were on my head the whole time?
im 22 but i would say i have more mature tastes in music than the average early twenties music listener. 4 minute power chord songs with a "root solo" 3 minutes through just doesnt cut it for me anymore.and guys singing Lips of an Angel while crying makes me wanna play in traffic
anyway i gotta go for that hip replacement operation. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2006 : 14:13:42
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Hi StratoSphere
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise but:
Old = Wise
Older = Wiser
and you can afford to tell the younger ones, that you have forgotten more than they'll ever know.
In my youth, one of my electronics mentors, told me a quote, which went:
"You know you're getting old,
when your best friends daughters start looking good."
Memorize this StratoSphere, it will make more sense the older you get.
And maybe one day, you can mention me in a similar quote.
He told me many more wise & profound quotes, but unfortunately, none are printable in this forum, well none that I would want to print here.
One day..... over that cold beer StratoSphere! We'll talk.
I'm actually & probably, as old as your dad, my oldest son is now 25.
Regards Dr. Bob |
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Dingus
Silver Member
USA
472 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2006 : 16:49:13
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Here's my take on the Chorus thing. And I'd like to pretend I know about this, because for a long time I owned more Chorus pedals than I do overdrives, although I'm still not sure why.
When I go to a bar, and there is one guy with an acoustic guitar, he always has a chorus pedal, and the chorus pedal is always on.
This will eventually drive me nuts.
A chorus pedal in general, is very 80's reminescent and something that the current generation avoids, because the 80's is faux pas. But in 10 years they will be loving up the 80's just like the kids are loving the 70's up right now, fashion and film remake wise.
Anyway, I'm glad there is less chorus pedal usage going on. I think it's a very cheap and easy effect, just like a flanger. And many guitarists nowadays are trying to become extremely technical. What with the 60's/Hendrixy revival going on in music. Not that Hendrix didnt use a Uni-vibe (which reminds me, I've got a broken Dunlop UV-1 for sale). And not that 80's guitar isn't technical, it surely is. But the use of a chorus pedal is a straight-up, exactly what it is effect. There aren't any chorus pedals that I know of, that allow you to hook up expressions pedals, to take the chorus thing to a whole new level.
It goes back to the overall problem that there is nothing new under the sun. So if a chorus pedal has been used and recorded in every concievable way possible, than why waste your time reinventing the wheel?
I personally do not keep one of the 20 or so chorus pedals I must own by now in my chain, and when there is one there it is only to accent an intro, or a bridge, and even then I feel dirty afterwards for using one. I don't know exactly why, but I think its something about how easy it is. And something about an audience knowing how easy it is.
Anyway, sorry that turned into a rant.
The CE-2 is my favorite by the way, but you've got to love the DC-2 and DC-3 in Stereo modes.
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tomwest
Silver Member
United Kingdom
436 Posts |
Posted - 12/23/2006 : 18:19:38
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I like my Small Clone, although I only use it to 'darken' what I'm playing a la The Cure on Seventeen Seconds. I also use it with distortion in lead parts occasionally, but again it's to darken my sound though I tend to just use distortion/fuzz and lots of it, with a bit of delay.
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Originally posted by visserman
Razorlight was mentioned by a few of you, can I mention the Kooks? and some others. Most of their songs sound simple and raw, they could easily be spiced up with something a little nicer.
Don't even get me started on the Kooks, Luke Pritchard is such an arrogant idiot, their musicality is generic and for want of a better word total shit. I'm well and truly sick of today's music scene.
I'd have to disagree with the 80's faux pas bit Dingus, although you made some very good points, I think the late 70's/80's are undergoing a revival at the moment (unfortunately). There was some great music around at that time but all these revivalists have to spoil it. Anyway I'm way off topic. |
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Whatever Happened to Chorus???
