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tomwest
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 Posted - 12/19/2006 : 17:17:33
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
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Originally posted by bossarea
Math rock? Not familiar with that?
Do you need good math skills to play it? 
Hi bossarea & Guys
I have a really great HP15C calculator, that I use all the time.
But I have never found a guitar input jack on it.....   
Regards Dr. Bob
PS... Hey Tomewest, please don't take any offense.
No offence taken ok, to quote Wikipedia quote:
Originally posted by Wikipedia
'Math rock is a style of rock music that emerged in the late 1980s. It is characterised by complex, atypical rhythmic structures, stop/start dynamics and angular, dissonant riffs.'
Says it all really, songs are often quite heavily distorted/fuzzed. Some key bands - Slint, Shellac, Rodan, Polvo, Shipping News, Roadside Monument. It spawned out of noise rock and has prog-rock influences too.
Post-Rock (again to quote Wikipedia) quote:
Originally posted by Wikipedia
'Post-rock is a music genre characterized by nontraditional use of rock instruments and high musical density. Although firmly rooted in the indie scene, post-rock's style bears little resemblance musically to that of indie rock. However, as post-rock music is often recorded on independent labels, indie and post-rock often share the same level of obscurity.'
Usually involves layers of sound being built up, often in a crescendo of distortion at the end. Orchestral sounds feature a lot aswell as synths, keyboards etc. Some key Bands - Explosions in the Sky, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Mogwai, Silver Mt. Zion.
Noise Rock (quoting time again ) quote:
Originally posted by Wikipedia
'Noise rock is a broadly defined musical genre that developed in the 1980s as an experimental outgrowth of punk rock. Fusing punk rock's attitude with the atonal noise and unconventional song structures of early industrial and noise music, the noise rock introduced a new kind of avant-garde music to the alternative rock landscape. The style is sometimes referred to as "noisecore", though this term can also refer to a variety of fast, distorted hardcore techno music and grindcore.'
Similar to Math-Rock (math rock is an offshoot), distortion and fuzz play a major role, also a lot of bands use prepared instruments. Some key bands - Big Black, Melt Banana, Wolf Eyes, The Jesus Lizard.
Hope that helps |
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/19/2006 : 18:13:33
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It helps but being an old fart means I haven't heard of any of the bands mentioned. Should have an old-man-emoticon here.
I once recorded a song in a pi/4 beat. Does that qualify as math rock. Well, probably not as it was closer to flamenco |
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tomwest
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Posted - 12/19/2006 : 18:16:00
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| Kindof, structure wise and timing wise it does, it doesn't sound like any math rock I've ever heard, but its cool EDIT I'll upload something, give me a few minutes. |
Edited by - tomwest on 12/19/2006 18:16:33 |
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tomwest
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bosshog
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Posted - 12/19/2006 : 19:39:51
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Noise Rock or just noise, from my understanding, seems to be Music for its own sake...Like crazy freeform noodlings, smashing-up, destroyings, carvings etc....A good example would be the musical equivalent of a violent kid with crayons and no sense of form
It seems to be popular in Japan where gadgetry is also fairly popular. Some might see it as not music at all or unlistenable but everyone should give it a chance...once art and performance cease to be interesting...its over
The Boredoms from Japan are proponets of Noise. Just do a google search..noise music etc... |
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bosshog
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Posted - 12/19/2006 : 19:44:03
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As for new genres...lets keep an open mind...Louis Armstrong said regarding emerging Jazz....
�If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know.� |
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bossarea
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Posted - 12/19/2006 : 20:07:39
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Originally posted by tomwest
Ok Santa came early for you guys:
Nosferatu Man by Slint � mostly in 5/4, but contains instrumental sections in 6/4 http://www.esnips.com/doc/f1e76486-0425-4aa2-a807-7f56e3acaba4
Thanks for the link. That was excellent, I will have to see if I can get hold of their albums now.  |
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tomwest
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/19/2006 : 20:33:30
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| Glad to help, they're my personal favourite band. They only did two albums (Tweez and Spiderland) both are fantastic, Tweez is a little rawer (in part due to it being produced by Steve Albini) but Spiderland is seminal work. They also did an EP that was released posthumously, which is really worth checking out too Anyway glad you liked it. |
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tomwest
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Posted - 12/19/2006 : 20:39:27
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Originally posted by albie333
Noise Rock or just noise, from my understanding, seems to be Music for its own sake...Like crazy freeform noodlings, smashing-up, destroyings, carvings etc....A good example would be the musical equivalent of a violent kid with crayons and no sense of form
That's a pretty good analogy, it is quite abrasive and at times difficult to listen to, but bands like Big Black aren't too harsh, and have song structures that are pretty akin to punk rock. The main harshness in Big Black tends to come from Steve Albini's Interfax Harmonic Percolator, Travis Bean Guitars, and homemade cabs, not to mention his production technique, opposed to weird and wonderful sounds and noises and prepared guitars.
EDIT: want any other samples Bossarea? |
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bossarea
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Posted - 12/19/2006 : 22:14:44
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| It doesn't sound like my taste but I'd love to have an Interfax Harmonic Percolator... whatever that is |
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tomwest
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Posted - 12/19/2006 : 23:04:17
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It's this pedal they made in the 70's, I don't understand it really, but it's not an ordinary fuzz because it has 'even order harmonics' or something to that effect. http://www.tonefrenzy.com/effects/interfax_harmonic_percolator.html
This has some info, Barge Concepts do a clone that's pretty accurate, but the designer died and a lot of the values of the parts will never be known. |
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DarrinPA
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Posted - 12/28/2006 : 05:59:47
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| I play ska, with a mix of punk, metal, and rock. 3rd wave ska if anybody knows what that means. |
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zestystrat
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Posted - 12/28/2006 : 12:48:56
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Funky jamband based Soul.
Check out the web page in my profile. |
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tomwest
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Posted - 12/28/2006 : 13:46:08
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Originally posted by DarrinPA
I play ska, with a mix of punk, metal, and rock. 3rd wave ska if anybody knows what that means.
No Doubt are a Third Wave Ska Band if that helps anyone. |
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DarrinPA
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Posted - 12/29/2006 : 02:12:10
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Originally posted by tomwest
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Originally posted by DarrinPA
I play ska, with a mix of punk, metal, and rock. 3rd wave ska if anybody knows what that means.
No Doubt are a Third Wave Ska Band if that helps anyone.
Well, they were until they started useing keytars or whatever they are called. Sublime is known by most, but people often call them reggae, they don't like to admit they listen to ska. |
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What type of music do you play?
