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 FS-6: Can be used as A/B/Both box?
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Joske Turbo
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Belgium
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Posted - 06/24/2009 :  20:13:07  Show Profile  Visit Joske Turbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone
I will soon purchase a new amp (valve jr. or little giant) which I'm gonna use for my clean tones. I wanna use my Marshall for my leads. But for some songs, I'd like to crank up the new amp and use them both for leads. Can the FS-6 be used to do this?
The rig I have in mind is: Guitar => FS-6(?) =>(A) all my current pedals
=>(B) FRV-1 => jr or giant.
Greetz Joske

Leeroyfunk
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United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2009 :  18:46:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, sorry it can't (though I can understand why you might think it could).

The FS-6 is a dual control pedal, not a routing pedal: You plug it into the control input jack of amps or pedals and it can be used to change channels on amps, or switch reverb on and off, or as a tap tempo etc: It's got two separate switches so you could change channels with switch A and turn reverb on/off with switch B, for example OR you could use it to change channels on two separate amps.

To route between two amps you need an ABY pedal - Boss do an AB pedal (AB-2) but this would only allow you to choose EITHER amp, not both at the same time. In fact, Boss don't actually make a suitable pedal for this purpose, most unusual. I use a WOBO double looper as an ABY for my two amps, but WOBO do make specific ABYs, and there are plenty of other companies who make similar pedals.

You may encounter "ground loop hum" when using one guitar into two amps: You can buy more expensive ABY pedals with a build-in ground lift switch to eliminate this problem, trouble is, you don't know whether it will be an issue until you try it. I have used a Bigshot ABY pedal in the past - It has a ground lift switch, isolation switch and phase reverse switch, but does not have LEDs to show which amp you've selected...
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 06/25/2009 :  20:04:45  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I recommend a Little Lehle switch.


Edited by - DeFrag on 06/25/2009 20:06:05
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Joske Turbo
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Belgium
412 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2009 :  15:03:21  Show Profile  Visit Joske Turbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the help Leeroyfunk and DeFrag. The Lehle is a bit expensive I think (�100). Is the Morley ABY box also good?
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Leeroyfunk
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United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2009 :  22:48:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It seems there are 3 types/price brackets of ABY:

1) The basic variety - Passive, no hum elimination, maybe not even LED indication: Morley, ART, make them and so do many others. Cost about �20-30? (sorry, don't have a euro key). Works OK, but your amps might hum, and switches might pop: You won't know til you try. You could make one for �15.

2) Passive, but fancy: The Bigshot I mentioned, and a few others have some form of isolation, whether it's a ground lift switch, transformer isolation etc. �35-50, you could probably make one for �25 or less.

3) Active, i.e. buffered, so output isolation works better and without signal loss, noiseless switching, etc: Plenty of custom builders at this level, as well as pedals like the Lehle, �60-120+
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verivorax
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Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2009 :  13:57:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Radial Engineering makes the BIGSHOT ABY, which is only $80CAD. It's all passive, but fully true-bypass. They also make a nice fx-loop switcher in the same style and price. I'm a little biased as they're a Canadian-made product, but they're internationally renown for their DI boxes etc..

www.radialeng.com or maybe www.tonebone.com
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DeFrag
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USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2009 :  20:19:58  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
+1 on Radial Engineering (ToneBone) products.

The best available if you ask me.. I have 3 of their units.
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