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BluesDriveMonster
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  01:08:53  Show Profile  Send BluesDriveMonster an AOL message  Reply with Quote
So I've had this for a while, but can't find the shimmery chorus I'm looking for...think like Knocking on Heaven's Door GnR intro. Or even...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIdNTapWq68

Anyone have any good settings for the Chorus Ensamble.?

Thanks.

Also, I like the Police's chorus tone.

Edited by - BluesDriveMonster on 07/18/2008 01:10:22

Laurie
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  02:17:05  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Can't get this tone out of a CE-5 (not my analogue ones at least!)

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BluesDriveMonster
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  02:29:33  Show Profile  Send BluesDriveMonster an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Aw so your thinking I need a new chorus? :(
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Laurie
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  02:35:54  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've been looking for this chorus sound for a while. I have the CH-1, CE-5, and CE-2 from Boss, plus the CH100 from Behringer and the RG-1 from Marshall. None of them really sound like the clip.

Dr. Bob tells me the Arion SCH-1 is the way to go.
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BluesDriveMonster
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  05:44:30  Show Profile  Send BluesDriveMonster an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Alright well I'll play around a bit, if not I'll look around for another. :)

THanks
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zentropa
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  06:34:25  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
actually, that sounds very much like a CE-5.

that's probably the only boss chorus that can get close except for maybe the DC-3.

the CE-3 has a similar voice to it but it has less tweakability than the CE-5.

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Laurie
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  06:47:53  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting... my CE-5s are both analog and both sound the same, and neither have that much movement or wetness.
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BluesDriveMonster
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  07:19:47  Show Profile  Send BluesDriveMonster an AOL message  Reply with Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feG_kSy4zIs

It sounds great here../
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zentropa
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  07:20:36  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
try this:

e level: 1:10
rate: 12:45
depth: 12:15-12:20
hiband: 1:50
lowband for humbuckers: 10:00
lowband for single coils: 12:55

keep in mind the clip in the video has several effects stacked:
1. it's a solid state amp (or clean tube amp with a lot of headroom and alnico magnet speakers) w/ low output alnico single coils. might even be rolled back on the volume a lil
2. there's a spring reverb set to "room" intensity and a 2 echo decaying delay of around 150-250ms.


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zentropa
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  07:22:18  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
heh.

in the 2nd clip the cabinet simulator makes me wanna h0rk.

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PaulH
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  17:22:21  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The 1st sound can be got with a CE5, but the key to that 80's sound is you must also use a delay box.

You can pick the delay time/feedback etc. out on the palm-muted parts.
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Laurie
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  19:30:45  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

Can't get this tone out of a CE-5 (not my analogue ones at least!)



Hmmm... Reading all the responses maybe I just haven't found the right setting. I know the CE-5s are both working OK becuase they sound the same as each other.

So, to help me out, can someone let me know the exact effects that are stacked up here plus some intiial settings to try (on the non-chorus FX)? Thank you kindly!

Edited by - Laurie on 07/18/2008 19:31:59
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zentropa
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  22:40:52  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
heh...

i gave initial settings :P

find a cleaner than edited for TV amp (in the recording it sounds a lot like a made in USA fender solid state, e.g. deluxe 112+, stage 112SE, 85, studio/pro 185, etc.) and turn the amp's reverb to somewhere between 2 and 4. could probably get by with a clean tube amp (deluxe reverb, twin reverb, pro reverb, super reverb, etc.) and similar setting.

delay... find a feedback and repeat setting that gives 2 echoes with each echo losing about 30-40% volume per echo. start ~150 ms and work your way up for there.

if using a reverb pedal... "room" size setting with ~75-100ms should do it.

also, set the delay before the chorus and the chorus before the verb.

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Laurie
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  23:21:41  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zentropa

heh...

i gave initial settings :P

find a cleaner than edited for TV amp (in the recording it sounds a lot like a made in USA fender solid state, e.g. deluxe 112+, stage 112SE, 85, studio/pro 185, etc.) and turn the amp's reverb to somewhere between 2 and 4. could probably get by with a clean tube amp (deluxe reverb, twin reverb, pro reverb, super reverb, etc.) and similar setting.

delay... find a feedback and repeat setting that gives 2 echoes with each echo losing about 30-40% volume per echo. start ~150 ms and work your way up for there.

if using a reverb pedal... "room" size setting with ~75-100ms should do it.

also, set the delay before the chorus and the chorus before the verb.




Many thanks! I'll give it a go tonight.
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zentropa
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Posted - 07/19/2008 :  23:08:24  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
how'd it go?
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BluesDriveMonster
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Posted - 07/20/2008 :  04:53:55  Show Profile  Send BluesDriveMonster an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I know it worked out for me. I hadn't checked the thread, so I didn't do reverb/delay...I'll deffinately try that out tomorrow though. teh verb tomorrow!..but I got a pretty nice tone for Knocking on Heaven's Door...

as on a clock...
E level at like 3
rate at 12
depth maxed
high at 3 and low maxed

I'll play with teh verb tomorrow!
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