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svengali
Bronze Member
Australia
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 Posted - 02/03/2009 : 23:36:04
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hello,
ive noticed a great interest in delay pedals, and to my delight, the buyers of these pedals more and more are looking under the hood.
ive just swapped my long logo dm2 for a short one.
before i passed over my delay pedal, i did a quick comparison.
i also grabbed a mates dm2 ( long logo) to use as a kind of control
pls note that none of these pedals have been tampered with.
the factory glue stuff still holds the trimmers where they are meant to be on all pedals.( the arion sad 1 does not have its trimmers fixed with glue.)
the mn3205 version dm2 pedal (long logo ) i would actually call an echo pedal.
its repeats are organic, rounded, gluggy?
the delays make a kind of a soup. tasty.
when pushed it will oscillate.
the mn3005 version of the dm2 ( short logo) is in my opinion, a true delay.
its a different beast, and surprisingly i dont think its fair to compare the two pedals.
it will oscillate much easier.
the repeats are difinately louder, thicker and clearer.
it is a much more 'aggressive' effect.
more like an ad80 maxon...
(the maxon ad80 uses a regulator to bring 12volts to its mn3005, i measured 10.3 volts at the boss mn3005 while using an aca adaptor..the mn3005 likes a bit more juice.)
i then compared the mn3005 boss dm 2 to my arion sad 1.
this is actually a fair comparison, which is perhaps surprising as the arion uses an mn3205...
after reading a lot of internet crap, and doing some fairly intensive listening tests, i have come up with the following conclusions.
the arion sad 1 is a bloody good pedal.
it has longer delay times than my boss dm 2 short logo (mn3005 chip)
the repeats are brighter, and they decay at a slower rate than the boss.
the boss dm 2 ( short logo) is an strong delay which does retain a very organic sound.
More organic i think, than the arion sad 1.
the irony here is that the sad 1 is actually (because of the integrity of the repeats) a 'better' delay pedal, yet i personally prefer the boss dm2 that i compared it to, because the boss delay is actually kind of an effect in itself.
i reckon they should have called the boss dm2 pedals, both versions, just boss dm2 and left the delay bit out.
as a footnote to this review, id like to write that if you use these effects in front of a superclean amp, they can all be noisy...
pedals it seems, have limitations.
for a repeat or two if you listen carefully, youll hear that whine that all these delay pedals seem to have.( with the knob at the slowest delay time-)
its subtle, but its there.
if you use these pedals in front of an even slightly dirty amp, and im talking something as mild as a fender deluxe reverb, youll hear no whining or other noises at all from an unmodified pedal.
once those trimmers have been adjusted, your delay pedal will whine like a hungry cattle dog. yeah.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 08:45:19
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Thanks, interesting reading  |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 09:42:06
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| Good stuff, Svengali. |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 18:39:38
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I still have an old SAD-1 lying around that I will never part with.
Although I mostly use a DD-3, it's just too good to sell. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 08:43:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Dirk
I still have an old SAD-1 lying around that I will never part with.
Although I mostly use a DD-3, it's just too good to sell.
Hi Drik & Guys.
I was just wondering, what delay IC/method the SAD-1 pedal uses?
There was an IC called the SAD1024, that is now obsolete,
any chance, that's the IC in the SAD-1?
It would be great to get some internal pics, if you could.
Regards Dr. Bob 
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boss dm2 mn3005 vs mn3205 vs sad1
