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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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 Posted - 01/06/2010 : 18:37:38
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Any of you guys especially those in the states ever come across these amps...
http://www.jazzamp.com/
...a whopping 120 watts with the internal speaker(160 with a 8 ohm ext speaker cab) and small enough to carry in a gigbag on your shoulder...
I was talking to a guy called sammy from the UK over on the gear page who bought one and he has some serious tube amps..boogies,carr ramblers,marshalls etc..and he said this thing for a solid state amp is a serious piece of kit,there are some serious heavyweight jazz heads using it as well...sammy got henriksen to put an on/off switch for the tweeter in the cab so when using an electric he turns it off and when you want to use a acoustic,switch it on and hey presto.!! you have a acoustic amp all in one.... ...sammy told me it's quickly become his 'go to' amp when going to gigs and it's a helluva lot easier on the back...!!he uses it with a tele for rock and said he has no problem cutting through the mix..instead on the using a normal EQ it has 5 band graphic EQ which is supposed to give your guitar a more natural sound....i had solid state amps in the past and use one in rehearsal but i have to be honest here this little amp especially the covertible head and cab is lookng very appealing.. |
Edited by - FRANZONI on 01/06/2010 18:38:36 |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
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Posted - 01/06/2010 : 18:51:03
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| It looks interesting. now the question is how much and how come no sound clips or demos of this little amp |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 19:19:19
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Originally posted by zerksies
It looks interesting. now the question is how much and how come no sound clips or demos of this little amp
He has prices on the website if you follow the link... there are some links on youtube of people using them but mostly with archtops...BTW i'm not selling any of my amps off..probably sell the Suzuki 1200 bandit to fund it and some other bits i have my eye on...thats if i can sell the bike in the current climate... -10 degrees and snowing here at the moment and the economy isn't in much better shape.... ... |
Edited by - FRANZONI on 01/06/2010 19:25:12 |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 18:44:51
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Amps under consideration at the moment...
Henriksen Covertible with a 1 x 10 speaker cab
Jazzkat Phatkat tube pre solid state power....
Egnater Rebel 30 and matching Egnater 1x12 cab...
Carvin Nomad 50 watt 1 x12 combo (althogh a lot of people think this needs to be modded to acheive full potential)
any other suggestions welcome...i already have a 70's 100 watt Marshall and Cab, 70's Musicman HD-130 2x12 combo and a 61 selmer combo(retired) and a rack with a pre and power amp for my wet effects so i need something to do the dry bit in the middle...
A/ New(ish) preferably single channel
B/reasonably small and light with a line out or pre amp out to connect to the rack
C/ between 30 and 50 watts(don't need much more as i use the rack as well)
D/ No digital multi-amps etc....don't need anything with built in effects as i have plenty already...!!
E/ Clean sound and clean headroom is more important than overdrive
it can be a combo or a head and cab and please remember Franzoni is a normal joe soap..no 5 grand super duper boutique amps please.. .... |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 19:05:06
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| Not small... but a JC120? |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 19:11:16
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Thanks for the suggestion Laurie and i was actually looking at them,it's a pity they don't make the JC 1 x12 version anymore... as i probably would on gone for one... but i reckon with using the two homemade 1x12's with the rack, a head and 1x12 cab or a 1x12 combo is plenty to be lifting in and out... plus sometimes it's a squeeze with the marshall or the musicman 2x12's plus the rack and cabs as it is...
P.S. maybe another niche in the market for you...your a dab hand with the tolex from what i can remember with your marshall 4 x 12....shouldn't be too much trouble for you to start building amps... |
Edited by - FRANZONI on 01/08/2010 19:14:47 |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2010 : 00:54:54
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Been on the net all day looking at amps and all the feedback seems to be that any amp under �1000 seems to have problems with construction or some problem with the internals or have 25 different options that i would never use.......at this stage i'm getting so pissed off i would nearly throw the lot in the back of the car,get on the ferry and drop them into a guy in Nottingham in the UK that Dr Bob put me on to and get them all serviced properly by someone who knows what he's doing and loves his job.... either that or Franzoni is going acoustic.... Clapton was right about one thing acoustic guitars don't blow up in the middle of a gig.... the Musicman lasted 20 years with no problems and it wasn't a new amp when i got it,the marshall i have over 10 years and only now is starting to make some funny noises and that amp was made in the mid 70's and is all original except for the tonebones i put into it in place of the output valves.... |
Edited by - FRANZONI on 01/09/2010 00:55:25 |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 13:22:51
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Hi FRANZONI & Guys
Hey Freanz, I'm DIS'sing that amp in any way, but I look at the pricing from the local dealer in Melb.
All I can say is, I nearly died.
Regards Dr. Bob
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Witloofboer
Gold Member
Belgium
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 15:03:57
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Do you know Polytone (http://www.polytoneamps.com/)? George Benson uses these amps.
Another idea are the Atomic Reactor poweramps. They have a docking station for POD's, Sansamps,... The poweramp itself is a tube power amp.
Ps. Speaking of amps breaking down, my old Laney (70's) just stopped working yesterday. I guess it needs a service, as it still uses the original valves.  |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2010 : 16:48:35
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Thanks guys for the suggestions so far.....i've narrowed it down to
the Egnater rebel 30 or renagade 65 heads (probably with their 1 x 12 cab) or possibly the 65 as a 1 x 12 combo
Cornford Roadhouse 30 or 50 head
I've found out there is two guys in Dublin who service tube amps both are ridicolously expensive and the second guy i was put onto i had a bad experience with about 15 years ago when he worked in a shop that did repairs...i saw him drop a EL34 out of my amp on the floor while checking it out and then tried to tell me that there was something wrong with the amp when all i left in in for was a service...!!!
i've sort of given up on the jazz amps as while i like the idea of the lightness and portability as Dr Bob pointed out they are a bit over the top pricewise for a solid state amp...i'm going to head over to the thomann website and check out dirks suggestion..cheers man...
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2010 : 03:36:15
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| Thanks for the idea Dirk.... i had sort of passed on the Marshalls as i have the 70's JMP Superbass head...the VM series look great...what i like in an amp simple with one channel as i ave my pedals for sound shaping i read a review than stated it was possibly the sweetest clean sound ever out of any marshall and my superbass head is also really nice for a marshall so thats a big claim.......what also intriged me was the use of KT-66 output tubes,the same as marshall originally used back in the 60's and famously used in Claptons 'Beano' phase with his JTM 45 combo a...one of my favourite tones which ispired millions including Hendrix(the VM combo has the same speakers as the marshall hendrix reissue 4x12 cab) and another tone the reviewer claimed was quite easy to dial in with a Les Paul or similar and the VM amp....i read somewhere that Slash has started to use the 100 watt head version...it's slightly dearer than the Egnater but Marshalls are popular in Ireland and i reckon i will be able to try one out local to see what i think so i might be able to haggle a cash price or find one in the january sales...... |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 01/10/2010 : 10:57:47
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I figured you might like 'em. 
Slash paires one of 'em together with a signature Slash head for his dirty sound and it sounds great.
For his clean tone he uses 2 Jubilees, how cool is that?  |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2010 : 13:47:56
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Originally posted by Dirk
I figured you might like 'em.
Slash paires one of 'em together with a signature Slash head for his dirty sound and it sounds great.
For his clean tone he uses 2 Jubilees, how cool is that?
Sounds like a great setup....joe bonamassa also uses an old jubliee head in his multi amp setup and swears by them.... obviously slash doesn't have to carry all his own gear in and out of gigs and set it up....
I still haven't given up on the Egnater stuff..the rebel 30 head and the 1x12 cab still looks good to me as a lightweight alternative and the soundclips on youtube sound pretty good as well.... |
Edited by - FRANZONI on 01/10/2010 13:50:02 |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2010 : 14:11:28
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
slash doesn't have to carry all his own gear in and out of gigs and set it up....
Imagine these racks on the pic, a huge rack of guitars and six 4x12's, you need a small truck for slash's stuff alone.
Here's a cool article about it and more:
http://www.performing-musician.com/pm/feb09/articles/slash.htm
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2010 : 18:53:41
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Monster.....
A bit OT but i brought the rack and some of my gear home after our unsucessful attempt to get to the gig...i've been messing with the rack on it's own,going into my small 1 x 12 cabs..i wasn't entirly happy with the sound out of it and was beginning to think it was the cabs i built.. but after messing around i've found again it's the PodXT pro... i saw a post by a guy from the US on harmony central which read "you can't polish a turd" and thats the conclusion i've come too as well with the pod....running it in bypass as an effect processor for reverb and delay is losing a serious amount of frequency and volume of my signal..i even tried putting the Pod first and putting it's stereo outs into the left and right channels of my tube pre and then into the stereo power amp to boost the signal but that still isn't great...the plus side is guitar into the tube pre and straight into the power amp is a really nice sound full fat and clear sound so my cabs are ok.... it's a pity as the reverb and some of the effects in the pod are really good and it's quite a good unit for recording silently...i even tried using the pods onboard sim of a LA-2A studio compressor to boost it's output and it worked but the actual unit does something to my signal that makes everything sound hollow,i think the pods internals do something to the midrange frequencys of the guitars signal and no amount of post EQ can replace it..i reckon i need to add a good stereo reverb with stereo inputs like a lexicon or an old quadraverb to my list and retire the pod to the spare room... |
Edited by - FRANZONI on 01/10/2010 18:54:41 |
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