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Firstpoet
Copper Member

USA
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Posted - 09/19/2005 :  21:25:03  Show Profile  Visit Firstpoet's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey - I just went crazy and bought a whole ton of new (to me) boss pedals - I had been using a Zoom505 but just bought a Gretsch Silver Falcon, and want to get that 'ultimate' tone, of course the guitar has it on it's own, but need to massage the sound for different songs - etc...

Here are the pedals I picked up (in alphabetic order - so organized) - AC2, BD2, BF2, CE3, CS3, DD3, FT2, HM2, PW2

I have some idea on how to hook them up but could definitely use some guidance...

I believe it should be Guitar in - CS3 - FT2 - BD2 - Optional PW2 - Optional HM2 - AC2 - DD3 - CE3 - BF2 - to Amplifier. I'm using a Fender Ultimate Chorus amp. The distortions PW2 & HM2 are for optional distortion sounds with the BD2 off - FYI, but again please offer any help and thanks...

Edited by - Firstpoet on 09/19/2005 21:32:38

pawnshop_trash
Gold Member

USA
603 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2005 :  22:52:53  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree, you do usually want your compressor first, and time-based effects* (chorus, then delay IMHO) near the end of the chain, but I sometimes like to use a phaser or a flanger (like your BF-2) at the front of the chain. this won't work with more extreme flanging settings, and may not be appropriate for every song, but give it a try. finally, remember that whatever sounds best to your own ears is the 'right' way, regardless of what anyone else says (myself included).

I've never used an FT-2 (or similar pedals) or the AC-2, so I can't help you there....

*(technically, flangers and phasers would also be considered time-based effects)
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axewinner
Copper Member

USA
43 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2005 :  23:30:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Go with Pawnshop's setup, put the AC-2 after the CS-3. Totally see why you have the DD-3 before the chorus, as the DD-3 does not have stereo outs. Suggestion; dump the DD-3 for a DD-6. In the meantime, have the DD-3 after the chorus, with one line out from the chorus going to the DD-3, and the other line out from the chorus going to a second amp. Don't have a second amp yet? Get a pignose for cheap, you gotta get a second amp for the chorus fullness, the jaws will drop!

Rock on!
axewiz
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member

USA
603 Posts

Posted - 09/20/2005 :  00:53:13  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
axewinner's right, I forgot that the CE-3 has stereo output, which means you probably *would* want it at the end of the chain (and not the mono DD-3) to feed two amps....
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arcanon1313
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USA
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Posted - 09/20/2005 :  01:22:43  Show Profile  Click to see arcanon1313's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Umm DD-3's are stereo Pawnshop.
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axewinner
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USA
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Posted - 09/20/2005 :  12:46:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
arcanon, looking at a DD-3 now, and no stereo outs. Unless I'm misunderstanding the Direct Out? This is a Blue Label, so maybe they changed it later. I'll go to Roland, download the manual, and probably find out you are right!
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/20/2005 :  12:58:43  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It isn't marked as stereo but the direct out + the normal output will result in a stereo signal. The DD-2 is the same pedal and direct out is instead labeled stereo output.

I'm not sure what we should expect from the two channels in a stereo signal. If we expect the delay signal on one channel and the direct signal on the other then the DD-3 is stereo. We will not be able to make any ping-pong effects with that setup so maybe it's not true stereo or is it? What is the DD-5 and DD-6 capable of?
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pawnshop_trash
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USA
603 Posts

Posted - 09/20/2005 :  17:31:22  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
you're right, arcanon1313 -- the DD-3 isn't really marketed as a stereo delay, but indeed the 'direct out' (mounted on the left side, to feed additional pedals before the signal goes to an amp?) is a stereo output, according to the DD-3 manual. I've never used this feature, but I'll have to give it a try.

oh yeah, you can also have a lot of fun by connecting two delays in series, the first at a long delay with quick decay and the second set for a shorter delay with multiple repeats ... but you need another delay for that purpose. the DD-6 has much longer delay times available, and I'd probably recommend that one if you really want another delay pedal in your setup.
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arcanon1313
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USA
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Posted - 09/21/2005 :  01:50:31  Show Profile  Click to see arcanon1313's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've gotta try putting my DD-2 after my DD-3 (running the DD-2 from the direct out of the DD-3) I think it might sound pretty good like that.

Edited by - arcanon1313 on 09/21/2005 01:51:15
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Britsie
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Belgium
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Posted - 09/21/2005 :  09:03:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pawnshop_trash

oh yeah, you can also have a lot of fun by connecting two delays in series, the first at a long delay with quick decay and the second set for a shorter delay with multiple repeats

I read somewhere else that this is the way The Edge is making is sound, by using two delays.
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 09/21/2005 :  09:51:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I�ve tried up to four delays in series, really weird, but you could get amazing sounds out of that
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