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Mel
Copper Member

4 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2009 :  23:29:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I'm watching this ebay auction because I've wanted a PN-2 for ages, the seller claims it's japanese made but I never knew they made any japanese PN-2's?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280351007169

can anyone verify this? I've asked the seller some questions but not heard back yet, I don't mind where it's made but I'm worried all his 'MIJ blue label' stuff in the listing will push the price up to over what I can afford. (the usual going rate)

thanks in advance for any help or advice.

Ollie
Gold Member

United Kingdom
729 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2009 :  23:51:27  Show Profile  Click to see Ollie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
There is a possibility that he's telling complete and utter bollocks. Man If I could drive I would go check it out, Im in Southampton.

It sounds like he knows what he's doing. The fact that he says Blue label - Japan shows that he does know about Boss pedals (and obviously the money Japanese pedals reach). I doubt it's a misunderstanding.
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Mel
Copper Member

4 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  00:04:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Ollie, yeah that was my fear to be honest.... I just don't want to pay over the odds for a pedal just because of the label, it looks to me that he's copied the info from BossArea and then changed the label info..... It just all looks a bit iffy to me. I've asked him if he'll take the bottom off and tell me what it says on the circuit board and the serial number info, so hopefully we'll soon see.
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
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Posted - 05/29/2009 :  01:13:09  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
it would be nice if he put a serial number on it
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  03:08:04  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Nope. PN-2 is MIT only. Should have a silver label. Check it out...

http://www.bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/pn2.xml

Edited by - Right Foot Boss on 05/29/2009 03:09:39
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  05:43:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If he's stating that it has a blue-label, it's likely that there is some other pedal's backplate on there.. maybe a DD-2. It's also possible that he doesn't know that it's been changed... but I'm probably giving him too much credit.
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Mel
Copper Member

4 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  06:53:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I got a reply.

"I'm not much of an expert, but it definitely has a blue label,
made in Japan underneath. It is very securely stuck on, doesn't
look like it has been tampered with. As far as the serial number
goes, there isn't one in the battery compartment, the sticker
seems to have been lost. I opened up the circuit board and the
only number I can find is: G292788900. Don't know if that
means anything to you? The pedal sounds absolutely killer, very
warm with no loss of tone"

mmmmmmmmm......
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  09:53:40  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The bottom plate is definitely unoriginal on this one.
There's probably a DD-3 out there somewhere with a silver MIT plate.
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Mel
Copper Member

4 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  12:27:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bossarea

The bottom plate is definitely unoriginal on this one.
There's probably a DD-3 out there somewhere with a silver MIT plate.



Thanks very much.
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silvertone6120
Gold Member

USA
609 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  14:25:45  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Quoted from auction: "Picture is for illustrative purposes only, mine has slightly more scratches."

That's another red flag. Between that and the changed bottom plate, I think I'd just stay away from that one. They're out there, you just have to be patient.
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Joske Turbo
Silver Member

Belgium
412 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  18:30:23  Show Profile  Visit Joske Turbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I also asked him because I found it pretty weird and I got such an answer as Mel. He is propably looking for some guys who don't know the amazing site, called www.bossarea.com...
Anyway, many Ebay cheaters on there nowadays...
Joske Turbo
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kpd78
Copper Member

34 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  20:57:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joske Turbo

I also asked him because I found it pretty weird and I got such an answer as Mel. He is propably looking for some guys who don't know the amazing site, called www.bossarea.com...
Anyway, many Ebay cheaters on there nowadays...
Joske Turbo



you guys haven't heard the half of it!

i emailed the seller a couple of times (before directing Mel to the auction), his first response was this:

"I'm afraid I don't have a camera at the moment which is why I
had to use a stock photo. But yeah this is quite strange, the label
on the bottom is definitely blue, made in Japan.
I have had the
pedal for about 3 years and never thought about it really. I can
only think that the previous owner could have changed the
label? Doesn't look like they have done though, it is very
securely stuck on, and why would they do that anyway. Is it
possible a few of the early PN-2's were made in Japan? The
pedal does sound as good as all my other MIJ analogue pedals,
nice and warm, not like the new digital, thin sounding Boss
pedals!"

so i asked him if he could check the serial number and he replied with this:

"Yeah I did think about the serial number idea, but unfortunately
like most of my old Boss pedals, the sticker is missing.
Boss
Area is usually very good, but there are a few mistakes on the
site. It's not actually an official Boss site either is it? I guess only
die hard Boss fans will know exactly where the PN-2 was made,
I'm just selling what I have and what it says here. I'm not that
much of an expert, but I have owned a lot of the old, desirable
Boss pedals, and I've got to say this one is my favourite!

Cheers"

I've highlighted the major contradiction!

so, the label is definitely blue, but the sticker is missing?!?!?!?!?!?
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  22:00:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't get too concerned with the label, at least it has a Boss plate. In the description under compact pedal on the home page, production only lasted 10 months in 1990.
http://bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/pn2.xml


Get it anyway
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Iversen
Bronze Member

Denmark
111 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  22:40:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That picture was taken by me when I sold a PN-2 on eBay 3 years ago using a Sony Ericsson W810i!

Now who, in this day and age, doesn't have to ability to shoot and upload a picture or two of the stuff you're trying to sell on eBay?!

He knows very well these things weren't made in Japan. If he was ignorant of the fact that it matters to some people, he would have never mentioned it being made in Japan in the first place. Personally, I don't give a flying f... whether the pedals are made MIJ or MIT, but I DO care that he's lying about it.

You should pass on this one.
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kpd78
Copper Member

34 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  23:10:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Iversen
He knows very well these things weren't made in Japan. If he was ignorant of the fact that it matters to some people, he would have never mentioned it being made in Japan in the first place. Personally, I don't give a flying f... whether the pedals are made MIJ or MIT, but I DO care that he's lying about it.



exactly!

i'm not planning on buying it anyway - i already have two.

the thing that's getting me most, is that in the ebay description and his first email to me he claims it has a blue label on the bottom (and is MIJ). after i ask him to check the serial number he says there isn't one as there is no sticker on the bottom (nor is there a serial number under the footswitch).

as it stands now, it's still a good price, but i'd hate to see people bid more and pay over the odds for what they think is a rare, MIJ PN-2.



Edited by - kpd78 on 05/29/2009 23:12:04
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nathanscribe
Silver Member

United Kingdom
376 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  23:54:14  Show Profile  Visit nathanscribe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Assuming that this is a genuine sale, he probably means that there is a label on the baseplate but the small s/n sticker at the bottom of that label is missing. I've got one or two like that.
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