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rfawarchild
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USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  20:18:46  Show Profile  Visit rfawarchild's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I recently purchased two Boss FS-5U pedals to allow me to cycle up and down in the banks on my ME-50. Rather then purchase the PCS-31 cable adapter to connect them "ridiculous price"... I instead purchased online what appears to be the same thing... "a 1/4"stereo male that Y connects to a mono left and a mono right 1/4" female set, from which i used two M/M 1/4" patch cords to connect the pedals. Alas i can still only cycle up on the banks not down at all. From pics i have seen this looks to be the proper hookup? Does the PCS-31 have some kind of special addition to it that differs from my setup? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated...and yes i have adjusted the polarity switches in the backs of the FS-5U's.

Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  21:17:48  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi rfawarchild and welcome!

As I understand it, the cable doesn't have anything unexpected in it (havent actually used one myself). I always though it was a standard "insert" cable.

Dumb question - are the switches on the back of the FS-5U pedals set the same? What happens if you swap the FS-5U's on the cable ends?
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  21:34:17  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Welcome to Bossarea rfawarchild!

Have you taken a multimeter & verified the cable you bought is actually an insert rather than a simple Y-splitter?
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  22:00:51  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi rfawarchild

Welcome to the forum from Australia.

I see that Laurie & DeFrag, are already on the case.

Or as Defrag mentioned, perhaps you could ask a store owner to let you measure one, to see why your one doesn't seem to work.

Regards Dr. Bob
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j3yps
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Philippines
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Posted - 01/07/2009 :  07:08:59  Show Profile  Visit j3yps's Homepage  Send j3yps a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Defrag and Laurie's suggestions will help you determine the problem...Let's us know after trying their suggestions so that we can help you further...
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rfawarchild
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USA
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Posted - 01/07/2009 :  15:39:28  Show Profile  Visit rfawarchild's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

Hi rfawarchild and welcome!

As I understand it, the cable doesn't have anything unexpected in it (havent actually used one myself). I always though it was a standard "insert" cable.

Dumb question - are the switches on the back of the FS-5U pedals set the same? What happens if you swap the FS-5U's on the cable ends?



I tried swapping pedals on cable ends...every variation of the polarity switches on the back of the pedals. What exactly is the difference between an insert and a Y connector? I'm a little lost there.
I'm taking the pedals and ME50 up to a music store today where they are going to try a cable they have similiar to the PCS and my setup. If that does'nt work I am going to order the actual PCS. I will try out the Voltmeter idea but what exactly am i looking for with that? The only thing i have every used my meter for is testing Pickups in the past.
Thanks for all the help everybody very quick and informative...
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 01/07/2009 :  17:19:36  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rfawarchild
What exactly is the difference between an insert and a Y connector?


An insert cable is used for outboard processing of audio typically from a mixer & is an unbalanced cable with TRS on the mixer end & send & receive (mono) TS ends on the effect unit side for input & output. For stereo processing main buss signals, two insert cables are needed, one for left channel & one for right channel.



A "Y", "Wye", or splitter is an unbalanced stereo out (TRS) that sums both channels & splits the stereo signal into two (mono) outputs.
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 01/07/2009 :  17:33:03  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi rfawarchild

I just looked at the rear of my GT-8, there is a picture/diagram
of the connections for the Crtl socket.

I don't know if this also drawn on the back of your ME-50

if it isn't, try to download the manual for the GT-8 & look at the rear panel connections.

It's definitely, on "Page 12 of the User Manual", you should be able to magnify the PDF, to get a better view.

Or see if you can find a picture of the rear panel on the Boss site or on Google images.

If you can't find one, I will take a pic of mine later.

Rear Panel of GT-8
http://www.roland.com/products/en/GT-8/images/rearpanel.jpg
Top & rear view
http://www.facemytruth.com/equipment/Boss_Gt-8.gif

Hope this helps.

Regards & good night until tomorrow Dr. Bob
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 01/07/2009 :  17:43:35  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm looking at it again, and a standard insert cable should work.
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 01/07/2009 :  18:09:35  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Laurie is correct, a standard insert cable is called for.

The Hosa equivalent is the YPP-117.
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rfawarchild
Copper Member

USA
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Posted - 04/02/2009 :  19:21:05  Show Profile  Visit rfawarchild's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag

Laurie is correct, a standard insert cable is called for.

The Hosa equivalent is the YPP-117.



Yep, the Hosa worked...thanks all...sigh now after all that i am checking out the ME-70 lol! I wonder if it needs the same setup to change banks? Anyone know?
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