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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 02/02/2010 : 14:38:16
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Originally posted by Radioheading
would you recommend it to someone like me? I play alot of ambient stuff, classical, quite a bit of prog rock right upto newer bands like Radiohead n such?
Radiohead? RE-201. i would say yes. (i haven't got one but i do want one - i have an RE-501 and RE-3 though).
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Ollie
Gold Member
United Kingdom
729 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2010 : 18:02:32
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| I believe Jonny Greenwood uses the original Roland Space Echo rack mount so the re-20 is probably the way to go Radioheading |
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Radioheading
Silver Member
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 00:44:47
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Aye he does but its not all I play. Is it versatile delay wise? I heard the verb is pretty lackluster though but thats no biggie  |
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aaronharmon
Silver Member
USA
271 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 00:50:06
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Originally posted by Radioheading
Aye he does but its not all I play. Is it versatile delay wise? I heard the verb is pretty lackluster though but thats no biggie
I think the reverb is pretty good. The delay certainly not as versatile as the DD-20, but then again it's not supposed to be. All in all, I think it's a great pedal. |
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
119 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 01:51:37
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Originally posted by Ollie
I believe Jonny Greenwood uses the original Roland Space Echo rack mount so the re-20 is probably the way to go Radioheading
i know that at Radiohead have at least one RE-201 - i saw it being fixed last time i was at my Roland repair man's place. According to Wiki Jonny has an RE-201 and an RE-20 (maybe in case the 201 dies).
Pity they didn't do the RE-301 as that has a lovely chorus too. Maybe a new rackmount of that would be nice.
As to the reverb it sounds crappy - but so did the original: it's based on a spring. i thought it was quite boingy when i tried it. |
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aaronharmon
Silver Member
USA
271 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 01:57:27
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Originally posted by Mr Arkadin
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Originally posted by Ollie
I believe Jonny Greenwood uses the original Roland Space Echo rack mount so the re-20 is probably the way to go Radioheading
i know that at Radiohead have at least one RE-201 - i saw it being fixed last time i was at my Roland repair man's place. According to Wiki Jonny has an RE-201 and an RE-20 (maybe in case the 201 dies).
Pity they didn't do the RE-301 as that has a lovely chorus too. Maybe a new rackmount of that would be nice.
As to the reverb it sounds crappy - but so did the original: it's based on a spring. i thought it was quite boingy when i tried it.
You don't like the reverb either? What's wrong with it? I think it sounds pretty good. Give me an example of a good sounding reverb. I guess I just don't know good reverb from bad reverb lol. |
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
119 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 13:31:20
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Originally posted by aaronharmon
You don't like the reverb either? What's wrong with it? I think it sounds pretty good. Give me an example of a good sounding reverb. I guess I just don't know good reverb from bad reverb lol.
Sorry, you completely misunderstood me. The emulation of the spring reverb is pretty good, but as reverbs go real springs are not good reverbs. They are however good for certain guitar sound (surf wouldn't be the same without it, along with dub). So it's not a Lexicon, but then it isn't supposed to be - it's supposed to be boingy (which is good in a lo-fi way, see?). |
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djsully3
Copper Member
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2010 : 20:36:10
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I think the reverb on the RE-20 is awesome. I'm sure opinions vary, but I think it may even be better than the RV-5 in some aspects. It has a very warm tone, which I like.
Does anyone have any cool settings to share? The manual is helpful, but I still find the modes a little confusing. Any pros here know what they mean in English?  |
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
119 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 22:08:13
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Originally posted by djsully3
The manual is helpful, but I still find the modes a little confusing. Any pros here know what they mean in English?
i don't have the RE-20 yet, but i have the manual, an RE-501 and RE-3 and i understand Rolandese. What are you not understanding? |
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djsully3
Copper Member
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2010 : 15:53:59
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Originally posted by Mr Arkadin
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Originally posted by djsully3
The manual is helpful, but I still find the modes a little confusing. Any pros here know what they mean in English?
i don't have the RE-20 yet, but i have the manual, an RE-501 and RE-3 and i understand Rolandese. What are you not understanding?
Honestly, I don't understand the function of each tape head. Does it come down to a matter of a different delay time for each?
For instance, I think the echo modes on the RE-20 are:
Tape 1
Tape 2
Tape 3
Tape 1 & 2
Tape 1 & 3
Tape 2 & 3
Tape 1, 2, & 3
If tape 1 is a short echo and tape 2 is a slightly longer echo, does the combination mode have both the tape 1 echo and the tape 2 echo?
Of course I can listen to them and hear what I like best, but I'd really like to understand how the modes relate to an actual Space Echo.  |
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
119 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2010 : 19:22:01
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i think you've got it. The three heads are physically a certain distance apart, so head one is first, head three last.
As you say, you can have each head individually, or any combination: all you are doing is adding each head to the mix. The way to think of it is that it plays back the sound when it reaches the head, so it is delayed the further away the head is (not shorter or longer as you described). The length of delay obviously depends on the tape speed, the heads just give progressively delays further away from the original sound, not longer. |
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
Silver Member
USA
270 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2010 : 23:12:00
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| the only bitch I have w/ the RE-20(owned one since Mar08)is the nasty "metallic-phase"sound you get when engaged in a loop...I've found that full on series loops mask 90% of the problem...but in a parallel no way...overall a fairly close reproduction of the original...honestly it's the only COSM pedal i've bought that I didn't return or sell immediately...but at the moment it's one of the sources of my misery...the loop's in my old Orange's have a very high impedance and when the Space Echo is in the loop the Peak Level goes apeshit and distorts the signal...when I back off the level so it doesn't peak anymore the signal path is so weak that by the time it hit's the power stage the amp's prob pushing 50 watts(it's normally 120!)at best! I know it's because the loop impedance level and I think I know how to solve this problem but I need to convert the signal path back to high impedance after it leaves my board...oh sorry we're getting off of the subject, the RE-20's tits |
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nosi0
Gold Member
Netherlands
511 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2010 : 23:53:57
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| This product will solve your effects loop problem. i'm sure there are similar products in the states though you might be able to buy it there aswell. I was once very close to buying a RE-20 but then i needed the cash for other things. I'm still in great desire of one. |
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
Silver Member
USA
270 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2010 : 21:08:21
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Originally posted by nosi0
This product will solve your effects loop problem. i'm sure there are similar products in the states though you might be able to buy it there aswell. I was once very close to buying a RE-20 but then i needed the cash for other things. I'm still in great desire of one.
...HOT DAMN!!!!...that's it man!...that's exactly what i'm lookin for...very cool...Ulta thanx & Hails for your help...shit I can barely contain myself |
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nosi0
Gold Member
Netherlands
511 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2010 : 21:50:22
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Holy Crap, RE-20 is killer!
