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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  19:22:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a couple of strats with zinc alloy tremolo blocks, MIM and MIJ.
Have anybody tried to put a steel block in one that originally had a zinc one? Was the result worth the effort and money?
Callaham blocks are quite expensive but there are much cheaper alternatives around. Any tips?
As you know I like to tweak and fiddle with my guitars all the time

zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  00:06:42  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
what are you exactly looking to do. i have done many mods and have alot of ideas for strats
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  00:30:58  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This is something that i was thinking about for the Squier strat....some people have claimed it makes a big difference.....is there any other alternatives out there...?? another mod i had considered was changing the bridge plate on the Squier silver series tele for a vintage 'ashtray' one and drilling the body so the strings go through like a real tele...

Edited by - FRANZONI on 01/24/2009 00:32:43
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timbo
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Australia
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  02:23:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ive heard about this too. ive been thinking of getting a brass block for my floyd... but i need more convincing. can you get one made?
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  04:12:17  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by timbo

ive heard about this too. ive been thinking of getting a brass block for my floyd... but i need more convincing. can you get one made?

they do make retro fit kits for flyods and other guitars. the heavier the guitar the better that it sustains.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  08:50:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

what are you exactly looking to do. i have done many mods and have alot of ideas for strats


I�m looking for better tone, sustain and attack. I think a steel block would give more twang too, but I don�t know.
I have strats with steel block but any diffrences could be due to many other factors.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
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Posted - 01/26/2009 :  10:40:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have ordered a complete strat tremolo, including a stell block, it was cheaper tahn ordering a separate block. Price about US $40, not too much.
I will come back as soon as it has arrived, hopefully today
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
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Posted - 01/26/2009 :  14:34:30  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Goran

Can I ask who you ordered it from Goran?
Was it a Callaham one?

Regards Dr. Bob
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2009 :  15:06:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi Goran

Can I ask who you ordered it from Goran?
Was it a Callaham one?

Regards Dr. Bob


I ordered it from
www.gitarrdelar.se
a Swedish guitar parts company. It�s not a Callaham, they are much more expensive. I suppose the one I ordered is Korean or from China, but I�ve heard that they are of good quality.

Minor typo in link edited by Moderator

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 01/26/2009 15:16:59
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2009 :  15:14:15  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Goran

That link doesn't seem to work.

You accidently added a ./ after the se
I will go edit your post if you want?

This version works,
http://www.gitarrdelar.se

Regards Dr. Bob
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2009 :  22:28:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These guys have them at a reasonable price
http://store.guitarfetish.com/tremelos.html
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2009 :  07:36:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pedals 4 pv

These guys have them at a reasonable price
http://store.guitarfetish.com/tremelos.html



That�s the source of mine, I�m sure, got it yesterday.

Couldn�t wait�. So I took a close look and saw that the top-plate was of thicker steel than the Mexican Fender one. To me this tremolo looked to be of very good quality, well made. So I used all parts from the new trem except the saddles (I like the originals because they are stamped with Fender). Of course I polished every area that is important to trem function, grades and imperfections, used my �Leo Fender� glasses to find the spots needing polish.

After mounting and tuning (you know how long time it takes to restring/retune a strat with floating trem�) I played acoustically to hear any differences against the original alloy block.
This is hard as it�s far from an A/B test� but I did hear a more brilliant and fast attack.
Plugged in the faster attack was even more noticeable, no doubt it was there. As for sustain and tone I can�t say anything for sure, but I felt that the tone was a little �bigger�, a little less mushy and more brilliant. I think this is noticeable mostly when playing clean, but the attack is there even when using distortion.
Was it worth it? Moneywise and the trouble involved I can say that if you�re really serious about tone and perfection you should do this. I did this on a MIM Classic 50�s strat, they are very good stock.
If you have Standard MIM or a Squier I think the upgrade would do much more to the guitars sound and functionality.
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2009 :  07:43:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Goran I like your new avatar. Is there an easy way to tell if your trem block is steel or zinc?
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2009 :  08:23:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pedals 4 pv

Hi Goran I like your new avatar. Is there an easy way to tell if your trem block is steel or zinc?


Yes there is (of course), use a magnet�
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2009 :  09:00:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2009 :  09:59:12  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As well as the magnet...zinc is usually a dirty grey colour...you call sort of tell the difference between then even by looking....

Goran....i like your avatar as well.............
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