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RRV-10
Silver Member
Australia
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 Posted - 02/07/2007 : 12:18:11
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If you plug your guitar into the output of a NF-1 and run the input to the amp does it turn into an SG-1?  |
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gurran1928
Gold Member
Sweden
650 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2007 : 16:26:41
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| Are you serious? Maybe should try it out then.. |
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Slow_Gear
Copper Member
USA
17 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2007 : 16:57:28
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Dr. Bob,
No Photoshop, just took the pedal outta the box, snapped the picture, back in the box. I was surprised how clean it was myself. |
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RRV-10
Silver Member
Australia
246 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2007 : 23:38:53
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Originally posted by gurran1928
Are you serious? Maybe should try it out then..
I heard that the SG-1 was a byproduct of the development of the NF-1. Basically it's a reverse noise gate. I was mostly being facetious. |
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stratman
Silver Member
Australia
283 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 00:10:54
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My CE-2 arrived yesterday. I was thrilled to find out it was a green label MIJ!!  I just assumed, due to the AU$55 price that it would be MIT. Not that that really matters I guess. I just wanted a green label MIJ (especially after reading one of Dr Bob's posts a while back). Serial Number 707400 (September 1986).
Compared the two last night (the other's a silver screw, long------dash MIJ - Serial number 9800, black label). Very similar in sound - although to my ears the green label has more of a "metallic" sound. Maybe more bright? I could definitely hear the difference though.
Opened both of them up and the PCBs looked identical. Exactly the same circuit (to my eyes) but just slightly different versions of the same components - eg. some of the caps were slightly bigger on the older one, resistors slightly larger too.
Also, the trim pot in the green label looks like it has never been touched. It has some blue-ish paint stuff that covers the actual bit you can turn and extends to the body of the pot. Definitely looks as though it's never been turned as the paint matches up exactly and I can't see even the smallest crack/line at the joint (of the top and base). I'm not so sure about the silver screw one though. There was no paint sealing the position on this one. However, the rate and depth sounds on both of them are the same to my ears - only the slight brighter/metallic sound is the only difference I can hear.
Dr Bob... tried your suggestions with the Deep and Slow and with the OD as well. I see what you mean!!! The overtones are bliss to my ears. Thank you very much for the advice. I'll play around with them more when I can.  |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 07:12:28
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Hi Stratman
I can hear the smile in your typing..... 
Don't forget to throw in a BF-2 or other Flanger into the mix-setup.
And don't be scared to set the Res. Control a bit on the high side.
Or just set it up as if it was another Chorus pedal, and do a Tri-Chorus setup. 
Did you do a serial setup or did you use a mixer & do a parallel setup?
Did you try out the Asus2 to Csus2 picking I old you about?
Regards DR. Bob
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NetStar
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
117 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2007 : 15:12:45
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Yay, got a TR-2 for £45 yesterday.
Second hand, very good condition, no box or manuel...not a problem though...
Also, if people need cheap daisy chains...Maplin Electronics...£4 |
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RRV-10
Silver Member
Australia
246 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 23:09:48
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NOS FZ-3 arrived this morning, shipped from some corporation in Singapore (though I thought I was dealing locally). Not sure how I feel about this yet but for some reason they've cut the barcodes off the box. Maybe when the FZ-3 was discontinued dealers could send them back to Boss for a partial refund or credit or something, like newsagents cut the barcodes off magazines that didn't sell that month and return them to the publisher? Anywho, it's not a huge deal but it kind of damages the image of it being a new pedal, since the box (which is otherwise mint) is mangled. The company sells a lot of current Boss pedals for much cheaper than stores here (they even sold a few NOS DC-3s about 2 years ago) but I'd be hesitant to buy from them again if the pedals were going to arrive with the barcodes hacked out of their box, just because a complete box seems to add a bit in resale.
The pedal itself was in the plastic and is mint. Interestingly the serial dates it to May 97. I was expecting early 99. First impressions are it's pretty cool. I messed around for an hour yesterday trying to get a tone I liked out of the HM-3 (change the volume of you amp and the whole gain structure of that pedal alters), and this FZ-3 sounded great right off the bat. It doesn't have the nasally sear of a tonebender or the fat woolyness of a fuzz face. It's probably the most tame fuzz I've ever tried. Even with the fuzz control all the way up it doesn't scream half as much as the tonebender I had before. I might have to investigate the FZ-2 for thick insane lead because I don't think this box will satisfy. |
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ronster
Gold Member
Australia
645 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2007 : 04:14:30
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Hey RRV-10
I have heard this before and I think Ebanex does does this to all of the gear they sell. I guess when you want to buy something next time you know you are going to get a mangled box but ace pedal and their feedback seem really good.
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RRV-10
Silver Member
Australia
246 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2007 : 04:31:01
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Yep, that's the company. I guess you can scratch out the discontinued pedal rebate theory if they do it to current production pedals. Why the hell would they cut the barcodes off?  The service was good - they were very courteous - although the pedal shipped in just a non-padded generic A4 envelope with one layer of bubblewrap around the box, but since the barcodes are being hacked off it doesn't really matter if the pedal box gets banged up in the trip hey? Good thing the FZ-3 sounds good - I'd be more pissed if I hated the pedal and was looking to make an immediate resale. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2007 : 09:10:17
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Hi RRV-10
Did you bother to email them back 7 ask why the cut off the barcodes
And more so,
Why they didn't mention this in all their ads on EvilBay
You might be a bit peed off, But I know some guys that would be looking for a fist fight & blood, wanting to know why New isn't really New.
Maybe they cut them off, to keep track of stock in their warehouse or office.
To a Collector New in Box
REALLY means NEW IN BOX
Not MISSING barcodes.
I would be interested to hear their reply & responses.
Imagine giving it to a Kid or freind (even me) as a gift, & having to explain to them,
Yes I swear that it really was NEW.
Or if you bought it for someone, on like a consignment?
Regards Dr. Bob  |
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RRV-10
Silver Member
Australia
246 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2007 : 09:49:50
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Hi Bob. Yep, I sent them an email. I made it clear it was more of a curiosity question than a rant on my part. Although it did tarnish the NOS find for me I won't be seeking a refund, partial or otherwise. Had it been a more valuable pedal like the DC-3 I would've been spitting the proverbial dummy for sure. But you're right - they should make it clear on their listings that they remove the barcodes from the packaging of their products. They must know that people don't tend to just throw away the boxes for these Boss pedals. Had I known in advance I wouldn't have bought it from them. I suspect you're right about keeping the barcodes as evidence that they sold the pedal - maybe it's a protective measure against fraudulent returns? I remember hearing ebay urban legends about people supposedly buying a working pedal, then surreptitiously returning their defective one and claiming a refund on the grounds that the pedal sent was DOA. That sort of thing makes you want to note the serials of the stuff you sell, but I have to admit I don't half the time. Since they deal exclusively in new products this explanation seems doubtful though. If they respond I'll post an update.
Interestingly I scrolled through some of their ebay feedback and didn't notice one complaint about the barcode thing. |
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neala
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
66 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2007 : 10:51:48
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Hello everybody
This is my first post on the forum even though i have been a follower for some time now.
I would like to say that reading about RRV-10,s experience with the packaging made me think of the way in which Roband packages it.s pedals when it sends them out.I have had a few deliveries direct from the UK and all they do is put the pedal in a plastic post bag,no padding at all.I think these companys are not interested in collectability of the products they sell but just shifting them hence they view the box as the protection.It is a shame but thats life ispose |
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RRV-10
Silver Member
Australia
246 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2007 : 12:07:43
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| That's corporate greed/ignorance for you. You pay through the nose for boutique pedals a lot of the time, but each one I've bought has been packed in a box with polystyrene beans. |
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stratman
Silver Member
Australia
283 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2007 : 13:08:54
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
Hi Stratman
I can hear the smile in your typing.....
Don't forget to throw in a BF-2 or other Flanger into the mix-setup.
And don't be scared to set the Res. Control a bit on the high side.
Or just set it up as if it was another Chorus pedal, and do a Tri-Chorus setup.
Did you do a serial setup or did you use a mixer & do a parallel setup?
Did you try out the Asus2 to Csus2 picking I old you about?
Regards DR. Bob
Hey Dr Bob... Will do - day off tomorrow. Will report back (and post a pic of the GK!!!!  ) |
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