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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
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 Posted - 06/02/2009 : 17:04:28
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Also a GE-7 pedal in the fx loops can work wonders.
This is how Slash did it for years.
You can see it in this picture here:
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Edited by - Dirk on 06/02/2009 17:05:40 |
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Frenetic Amnesic
Bronze Member
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 18:52:53
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Thanks for all the input guys! My first thought was to get a GE-7. But the only thing I wanted from it was the extra volume boost. So all the bands would be untouched and then the master would be up a notch our two. So I thought for $80 that was a little much. I wouldnt even get the full use out of the pedal. So then I thought about getting a second SD-1. I noticed the level volume doesnt do too much for me. Not much a volume boost as it is a gain boost.
I have done "lazy mans" alternative with my last guitarist. Except at shows during sound check it would always come out as "make me louder than him" which probably comes off as "he's a terrible player so turn him down so nobody notices" haha. I did that one time and the audience started laughing and my drummer face palmed! haha.
As far as either a volume boost or a better cut, I think volume is what I need more. Im running a mesa boogie head through a 4x12 cab and he's running a line 6 spider 2. Which to me, has a scooped sound no matter how much you mess with the EQ. So its probably not a big deal, but I'd just like to be safe. I have my mids turned down fairly low but my amp just has more "oomph" than his does. I guess its no competition between a line 6 solid state, and a mesa tube amp. But I really appreciate all the help. You guys are great. |
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Mansun
Gold Member
Spain
564 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 00:12:03
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I'm the second/rythm guitarist in my band but I also do some riffs that should be clearly audible to the audience. Sadly, our main guitarist has a Fulltone Fulldrive with a very nice boost that, when engaged, makes me disappear and fade into obscurity. Man I hate that thing.
I own a TS9DX from Ibanez, an overdrive, but since I have no distortion pedal at the moment, I use it to get some gain for some things I have to play louder. |
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
Silver Member
USA
270 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 02:47:37
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Originally posted by Dirk
Also a GE-7 pedal in the fx loops can work wonders.
This is how Slash did it for years.
You can see it in this picture here:
crap you beat me to it!!! ...I play in a black metal band w/ 2 guitarists and a bass player w/ a loudass Ampeg rig and the best way i've found to boost leads is running that freakin GE-7 in the loop...but it needs to be a series loop...the parallel loop in my Boogie suks w/ it...I've tried the BBE Boosta Grande,MXR Micro Amp,Zvex BOR and a few others...and they either added too much gain for what I needed or colored the sound too much for my taste... |
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mjp
Copper Member
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 08:23:21
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Originally posted by Jkeatley
plus has anyone mentioned the MXR Micro Amp yet?
Big yes to the MXR Micro Amp. Cleanest boost I've ever used.
The new ones are good, but try to find an older one (without the LED). The older ones (to my ears) have a wider sweep and don't introduce any subtle compression. Technically, I'm pretty sure it does not create any actual compression, but my ears prefer the older version.
Maybe because I am old too. |
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August West
Bronze Member
USA
137 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 16:00:40
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| It sounds like a decision has already been made but I'll put 2 cents in. The BD-2 is not transparent enough to use as true clean boost. Of my various pedals with level controls the GE-7 is probably the most transparent. |
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Frenetic Amnesic
Bronze Member
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 18:12:58
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| Well I was really leaning towards the EH lpb-1, but now im leaning more towards the GE-7. I can find them on ebay for around $50 used. Some a little cheaper, some more. I believe the upside to buying the ge-7 is that not only can I get a volume boost from it, but I can re-eq my lead sound so that it does stand out more. Im watching a few on ebay right now. |
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Rich_S
Silver Member
USA
219 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 18:21:30
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+1 to the GE-7. I ran one for years as my only form of boost/overdrive, driving a variety of single-channel Marshall tube amps. I ran mine in front, though, which gave some tube overdrive in addition to a slight volume boost. In an effects loop, it will give more volume boost and less overdrive.
Don't look at the seven EQ faders as being wasted - they allow you too resculpt you lead tone at the same time you boost it. How a sound is EQed is almost as important as how loud it is when determining how it sits in (or stands out from) a mix.
Coincidentally, I used my GE-7 with almost the exact same settings as Slash's in that pic. Big mid hump, slightly right of center, moderate amount of overall boost.
P.S. Doh! I guess I should have read your last poist before I wrote. |
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Frenetic Amnesic
Bronze Member
54 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 18:40:18
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| haha thanks Rich. Yeah I think the GE-7 will probably work out better. I was leaning towards the EH model because I thought it was better price for the simple volume boost I wanted. But I believe I will be going for the boss instead. |
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DovoodooMiracleman
Copper Member
Philippines
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Posted - 06/17/2009 : 10:52:54
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[quote]Originally posted by tunghaichuan
You might try a Boss BD-2. If you turn the gain all the way down and turn the level all the way up (adjust to taste) and adjust the tone to taste, it works pretty well as a boost.
Another good one is the EH LPB-1, which is roughly half the cost of the BD-2 new, and can be had even cheaper used.
tung
+10 Oh wow definitely agree with you! I use a TAIWAN OD-2 which really lacked level output, experimented with all my pedals and stacked it before a BD-2 the way you just explained it and Whala...it really gave a clear boost with many more volume room, it did not muddy my tone at all. Works really well for our gigs! |
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strat714
Silver Member
USA
156 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2009 : 14:47:33
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| Not meaning to be a jerk, but if your fellow band members won't turn down so that you can be heard then you need to find a new band. In a true "band" everyone works together to produce a final product that the audience can enjoy. A volume battle can only lead to "mrtld grp" where no one can hear anything. Stop the madness!!! Sorry for the rant, but I've been there and it hurts. |
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silvertone6120
Gold Member
USA
609 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2009 : 14:58:32
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Yep, I was just in that situation again last Saturday night. Our other guitar player uses a Strat into a Peavey Delta Blues 210 amp, using only a Boss DS-1 in between. He is routinely louder than me, and when I go to take a lead his rhythm overrides me...not a good sound. He's a good lead man and I'm glad to work with him(I wanted to work in a band with him for years) but he doesn't know how to cut back when necessary, and he just needs to turn down in general.
The volume war offers a casualty most bandmembers don't think of...the audience! You get too loud and escalate into a volume war, the audience can magically disappear... |
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Frederick
Copper Member
Belgium
46 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2009 : 22:13:19
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Originally posted by strat714
Not meaning to be a jerk, but if your fellow band members won't turn down so that you can be heard then you need to find a new band. In a true "band" everyone works together to produce a final product that the audience can enjoy.
+1: good musicians know when to back off; even when they're better lead players than the other musicians. When you take the lead, everyone else needs to back down. |
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Frenetic Amnesic
Bronze Member
54 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2009 : 22:42:08
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| Well its never been an issue. As i've said, I wrote 100% of the music and was the sole guitar player for a LONG time. I thought a second guitar player would sound better. I mean yeah I can tell him to turn down, but I think its just a bit disrespectful. I'll just get a cheap pedal and solve the problem. |
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DovoodooMiracleman
Copper Member
Philippines
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Posted - 06/18/2009 : 07:01:44
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Originally posted by strat714
Not meaning to be a jerk, but if your fellow band members won't turn down so that you can be heard then you need to find a new band. In a true "band" everyone works together to produce a final product that the audience can enjoy. A volume battle can only lead to "mrtld grp" where no one can hear anything. Stop the madness!!! Sorry for the rant, but I've been there and it hurts.
That takes a lot of work and experience... hope my band gets there, got volume wars with my band too...sometimes. best solution get an SD2 and a remote switch. |
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