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GuilhermeWanderley
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Brazil
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Posted - 07/03/2007 :  23:24:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello people.
You know that BOSS is getting more and more digital.
As time went by, they´ve turned all of their modulation/ambience pedals into digital.
Now they´re making they´re dist/od pedals digital too (or at least that´s what I´ve heard: not only FZ-5, FBM-1 and FDR-1, but also DN-2 and ML-2 are COSM modellers).
Aren´t they sounding too much artificial?
What do you think?

GuilhermeWanderley
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Brazil
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Posted - 07/03/2007 :  23:26:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Should BOSS keep on being digital or should they go back to the analog world?
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ronster
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Australia
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Posted - 07/04/2007 :  01:48:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I personally think they should be developing both analog and digital. I quite like digital at times because it has a certain consistency in sound to me.

It would be a shame if all Boss did were digital pedals.
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StratoSphere
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Canada
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Posted - 07/04/2007 :  03:10:56  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
its nice to think about all analog, but what can Boss do in the analog world that they havent already done? analog chorus...CE-2. analog delay..DM-2. the list goes on.

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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 07/04/2007 :  07:07:13  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Analog Johnny!
(all the way...)
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sp-1
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Germany
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Posted - 07/04/2007 :  09:19:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Analog
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redundant
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Turkey
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Posted - 07/04/2007 :  15:01:15  Show Profile  Visit redundant's Homepage  Reply with Quote
as Boss has never gotten around to reissuing the DM-2 or DM-3 (which are both in demand), I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to introduce more ananlog pedals
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sp-1
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Germany
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Posted - 07/04/2007 :  15:17:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by redundant

as Boss has never gotten around to reissuing the DM-2 or DM-3 (which are both in demand), I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to introduce more ananlog pedals



And if they release a DM-5 it will probaply be a cosm one, simulating the analog DM-2 and DM-3
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 07/04/2007 :  17:01:43  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sp-1

quote:
Originally posted by redundant

as Boss has never gotten around to reissuing the DM-2 or DM-3 (which are both in demand), I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to introduce more ananlog pedals



And if they release a DM-5 it will probably be a COSM one, simulating the analog DM-2 and DM-3


Hi sp-1

Really good point, you just made there sp-1.

Seems that, that is they way they have been heading for quite some time now.
Not to mention the:
GT-3 - 5 - 6 - 8 Multi-effects pedals.
Duo pedals.
VG-88.
PW-10 COSM Wah pedal.
The new Cube Amplifiers.
And the later GR guitar synths.

I'm sure I missed a few as well.

Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 07/04/2007 17:04:50
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2007 :  17:33:42  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Roland/Boss doesn't seem to be a company that look back. My impression is that they want to develop new products using new technologies. If they continue in this direction they will probably turn their backs on anything analog.

Personally I don't have a problem with that. I think they've taken the analog devices as far as they could and continuing producing analog devices would be walking the same track as they've already done.
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stahlhart
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Posted - 07/04/2007 :  19:35:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's also the matter of analog BBDs essentially no longer being produced, though Maxon seems to have worked around it:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Maxon-AD999-Analog-Delay?sku=155080&src=00633&247SEM

"900ms of pure, rich, organic analog delay"

/they're making integrated circuits from carbon now?
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ChristoMephisto
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Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2007 :  20:18:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could be the cost factor too.
Its cheaper to have automated machines build the pcb boards than to have people populate the board by hand, or called PTH, put-through-hole.

The machine pays for itself quickly, whereas the manufacture has to keep paying the skilled people. It still needs people to operate the machines and assemble them into the pedal chassis.

sorry for the grim opinion...
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 07/05/2007 :  07:09:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the digital pedals sounds fine it´s OK, and most all of them do. But digital can not to 100% reproduce the analog signal that enters the pedal, you know the steplike response. I can´t hear it but it disturbs me sometimes… in a way.
Analog is generally considered sounding warmer, more natural, and many find them sounding better. I like the feeling of an old analog pedal, just as I like the feeling of a vintage guitar. So I feel more than hear the difference, if that makes sense…
But if there is a big demand in analog pedals in the future it would be crazy if Boss didn´t respond to this and left a huge market to other manufacturers.
I like most of the new COSM-pedals very much by the way. But sometimes I get a feeling that this is not the real thing, but as I said I can´t hear it.



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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 07/05/2007 :  19:56:25  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm with goran on this subject....the only digital effects i still use is my two dd3's and i think it was someone on this forum who pointed out that the dd3 even though it uses a digital chip the rest of the pedal is analog so maybe thats why it's so popular....i used a line 6 pod xt pro for a while in the effects loop of a marshall amp and while it sounded great....after a while it sounded a little bit 'plastic' to me..(sounds great for recording though)so i dug out my boss pedals and valve amps a few years ago and haven't looked back since....and what really suprised me the most is people who don't play the guitar commenting on the sound lately and how good it is..... i guess i'm a child of analog as well when it comes to effects.....

Edited by - FRANZONI on 07/05/2007 19:57:07
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