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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
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 Posted - 08/24/2005 : 08:36:08
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What should we pay for a pedal with or without carton, manual, stickers etc?
As a user it doesn�t matter of course but for a collector it�s a different thing.
Are there a market for just the cartons?
I suppose a mint carton for a SP-1 should fetch some big money, but a carton for a nearly new SD-1 wouldn�t be worth much.
Have anyone ever seen someone trying to sell just the carton? There could or will come a market for that too I suppose.
Look at the tags for a 59 Les Paul, you have to pay $K for them.
So what are you willing to pay extra if a rare pedal comes complete with all the things mentioned? |
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phenry20
Bronze Member
USA
105 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2005 : 08:52:45
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| I think the rarer the pedal will cause a box/manual addition to bring "extra" value. And of course the condition of all items will weigh the most on perceived worth. On a more common model it will just help that one sell more quickly amongst others without the extra accoutrement. I've seen people pay more than you would think for just a lot of boxes - no pedals included. I never mind these days if something has the box or manual. Last point I would make would be in the case of Way Huge pedals which command some of the highest amounts these days for relatively recent equipment - I've seen these go for the same amounts, box or no box - and I've seen mint Boss pedals only go for more than the same pedal in the same shape with the box and or manual. So how much would I pay? I say a good deal is always the best thing, and if it comes with the box and/or manual - bonus! - but I wouldn't pay more myself. |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2005 : 11:52:42
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It surely adds to the price but so does a good pictures and a good description in the advert. I suspect that a 5-10 year old pedal will fetch about $5 more boxed. Older pedals will fetch a lot more when shipped complete.
I've seen empty boxes on Ebay from time to time. Mostly they go for around $1-$2. If it's for an out of production model, prices go up quickly. |
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cimed8085
Bronze Member
Australia
78 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2005 : 17:14:33
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i know i should say this on the Marketplace, but since we're on this topic, does anyone have a DS-1 box? can i buy it off from you? my DS-1 needs a home  |
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boss freak
Gold Member
USA
663 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2005 : 00:06:03
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I have a few Boss older pedals with boxes, but in general I'm not really interested in paying more for a pedal because it still has the original packaging. I fully understand that it does in fact add value, but for myself it's not so important. Not to say I don't like to have the box, etc. but paying an additional __% is not my style.
I remember seeing a few auctions on eBay earlier this year where the seller had only the boxes, booklets, etc. for sale. In the listings they talked about how this was a "new business venture" or something similar and that there would soon be many more listings. I haven't seen any such listings since then. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2005 : 07:42:19
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In the future I suspect that we will see more cases where rare cartons/manuals are for sale at rather high prices. Look att Fender or Gibson papers from the 50�s and even 60�s.
I agree with boss freak above, but I wouldn�t mind have the carton and manual for my rarer pedals, I would pay let say $10 for them as a collector.
But as these carons are collectibles I wouldn�t use them for the pedals, and they would take up more space than my wife like |
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maniacally_cool
Silver Member
Philippines
212 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2005 : 15:56:31
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speaking of boxes, ive been loking for a box and manual of a boss MZ2. i have here boxes of HF2, bf2 and CE3B.
by the way. do you guys notice the change in color parts of mit boxes compared to mij boxes? i observed that mit boxes have a white color part on the side nearest to the adaptor input and thumb screw of the pedal and a colored part on the side nearest to the input and output jacks. on the other hand, japan boxes are vice versa.
and i also see boxes where, i think, french words are printed.
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boss freak
Gold Member
USA
663 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2005 : 18:21:48
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The only MIJ box that is near my computer is for a DS1. It has white ends where the power supply/thumb screw are and colored input/output sides.
There's a MIT SD1 box here too and the coloring is the same as the MIJ DS1 (white ends where the power supply/thumb screw are and colored input/output sides). |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2005 : 21:41:11
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I've been thinking about this for a while. The boxes used to have white ends but then they changed it around and made the sides white and the ends coloured instead. The change must have occured some time after they moved to Taiwan as my MIT CE-3, CH-1 and DS-2 has boxes with white ends. The NS-2 is however still sold in a box with white ends and coloured sides.
The boxes used to have "Roland Japan" or "Made in Japan" printed on the side. Today the boxes has some bar codes and a block of text with "Signal Processor" written in 5 different languages (English, Italian, French, German and Spanish).
The bar code was added before they started colouring the ends. My CH-1 and DS-2 has them while my CE-3 doesn't.
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
603 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2005 : 23:50:25
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these days, I won't even consider bidding/buying a newer (MIT) pedal unless it comes with the box and manual, so effectively I always include some kind of premium. but for MIJ pedals, you kind of have to take what you can get. and I'll try to take a look at the coloring of all my boxes (or at least the MIJ ones) sometime this weekend....
speaking of original Boss manuals, I want to obtain an original copy of the manual for every Boss pedal I own (right now, I need manuals for the CE-2, CE-5, DC-3, DF-2, LMB-3, PH-1R, PQ-3B, and RV-2)**, but I don't consider boxes to be as essential. that said, I've paid something like $10 (shipped from the UK) for an old Boss HM-2 box on eBay (ironically, my MIJ HM-2 also came from a UK eBay seller).
** if anyone has any of these manuals, let me know; I have MT-2 and BF-2 manuals to trade (http://bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=80), or can outright buy them if the price is right. |
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maniacally_cool
Silver Member
Philippines
212 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2005 : 12:35:34
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Originally posted by bossarea
I've been thinking about this for a while. The boxes used to have white ends but then they changed it around and made the sides white and the ends coloured instead. The change must have occured some time after they moved to Taiwan as my MIT CE-3, CH-1 and DS-2 has boxes with white ends. The NS-2 is however still sold in a box with white ends and coloured sides.
The boxes used to have "Roland Japan" or "Made in Japan" printed on the side. Today the boxes has some bar codes and a block of text with "Signal Processor" written in 5 different languages (English, Italian, French, German and Spanish).
The bar code was added before they started colouring the ends. My CH-1 and DS-2 has them while my CE-3 doesn't.
i once saw a NS2 mij on ebay. i was surprised. i thought NS2s are only made in taiwan. and i looked closely at the picture of the box and it says "made in japan". as a result, i don't know what to prefer, a mij NS2 or a mij NF1. sheesh. |
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cimed8085
Bronze Member
Australia
78 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2005 : 14:24:35
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| NS-2??? made in Japan??? wow.. that's new.. when was it?? |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2005 : 15:50:34
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| The NS-2 was first made 1987. Officially production moved to Taiwan from Dec 1986 but as we know, many pedals was produced in Japan for a couple of years after the move. I've never seen a MIJ NS-2 myself but it doesn't surpise me to hear that some exist. |
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maniacally_cool
Silver Member
Philippines
212 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2005 : 15:37:45
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| the auction was maybe 15 days ago. but its really is a mij NS2. sigh, another pedal on my hunting list. tsk tsk. |
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Ray
Copper Member
United Kingdom
25 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2005 : 15:45:56
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| yeah i've seen a mij NS2 before, i think it was about the same price of a mit one, somewhere around $80 |
Edited by - Ray on 08/29/2005 15:46:39 |
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maniacally_cool
Silver Member
Philippines
212 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2005 : 16:55:42
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here's another one of a mij NS2;
US ebay Item number: 7350802655 |
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