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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
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 Posted - 03/03/2010 : 21:30:58
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People always say "everything that sounds good is okay" but then other people say... put delays last in chain and comps first......
I experimented a bit with pedal placements and am having a really good tone right now with quite the unusual FX order.
Guitar - VOX Time Machine - BOSS CS-1 - VOODOO LABS Tremolo - MARSHALL Blues Breaker I - ANTELOPE FX Morning Dew EQ - Amp
so all I'm saying is..... DO experiment!!! |
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2010 : 21:42:00
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+1! A great way to get your own tone!  |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2010 : 21:59:30
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2010 : 22:05:55
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Ok this is from the boss website
" There are no rules; whatever makes the sound you�re after is how to do it. But if you use these guidelines, you�ll keep noise to a minimum, and give your pedals the optimum signal characteristics they need to work their best. So try these rules (or suggestions if rules are not your thing) and see how they work for you. Tone is king!"
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 03/04/2010 : 02:15:09
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I've looked at a lot of pedalboards on forums and websites etc.. and noticed a few different boards...i think joe walsh puts a delay BEFORE the overdrive on his big board he uses with the eagles like what mully is doing with the time machine and the bluesbreaker pedal...i was wondering do older players who would of used early echo devices like the tone going into an distorting amp as all their effects back in the day would of been straight in the front end and the amp probably breaking up slightly..Lauries HZD booster on my board distorts the front end on my marshall slightly and even though my DD-3 is at the end of the board the amp is a bit dirty and i'm liking that tone these days a bit more over the really clean tone i used previously......... |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 02:40:19
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| I don't know if you call me an older player, I have been playing for 27 years now, even tho i am only 31. but i have always preferred the echo after the od/dist. I think it fattens ups the sound |
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aaronharmon
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2010 : 02:47:37
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I say do what sounds good to you. If we all copy each other, we are all going to sound alike. You will never blaze any trails copying off someone else.
That said, its good to understand the arguments for putting them in a certain order. That way, maybe you can minimize some of the drawbacks/limitations to changing it up. |
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Pepe
Silver Member
Germany
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Posted - 03/04/2010 : 08:40:43
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Never changing rule of mine: Delay at the end, right between the stereo Chorus and the stereo Reverb. Sometimes I experiment with my KORG 301dl in the middle of my chains, but till now never before an Overdrive.
Nice to see how others use their equipment. This forum is full of surprises.  |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 03/04/2010 : 11:16:34
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Originally posted by MullyFX
People always say "everything that sounds good is okay" but then other people say... put delays last in chain and comps first......
I experimented a bit with pedal placements and am having a really good tone right now with quite the unusual FX order.
Guitar - VOX Time Machine - BOSS CS-1 - VOODOO LABS Tremolo - MARSHALL Blues Breaker I - ANTELOPE FX Morning Dew EQ - Amp
so all I'm saying is..... DO experiment!!!
Hi MullyFX
And I'll bet it sounded really great.
Hey MullyFX, what's the Time Machine really like.
I have seem the Satchurater distortion here in stores,
but not the Time Machine delay.
Perhaps they are that good,
the stores sell out of them quickly.
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 11:20:11
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Originally posted by PepeMusic
Never changing rule of mine: Delay at the end, right between the stereo Chorus and the stereo Reverb. Sometimes I experiment with my KORG 301dl in the middle of my chains, but till now never before an Overdrive.
Nice to see how others use their equipment. This forum is full of surprises.
try it.... delay sounds completely different this way... instead of getting quieter on repeats it gets cleaner instead.... funny stuff.... and using the compressor after the delay acts like a ducker... so while my playing is busy the delayed sound is ducked and when I stop the repeats are there again..... quite fun |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2010 : 11:28:17
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
quote:
Originally posted by MullyFX
People always say "everything that sounds good is okay" but then other people say... put delays last in chain and comps first......
I experimented a bit with pedal placements and am having a really good tone right now with quite the unusual FX order.
Guitar - VOX Time Machine - BOSS CS-1 - VOODOO LABS Tremolo - MARSHALL Blues Breaker I - ANTELOPE FX Morning Dew EQ - Amp
so all I'm saying is..... DO experiment!!!
Hi MullyFX
And I'll bet it sounded really great.
Hey MullyFX, what's the Time Machine really like.
I have seem the Satchurater distortion here in stores,
but not the Time Machine delay.
Perhaps they are that good, they stores sell out of them quickly.
Regards Dr. Bob
Hi Dr. Bob,
well the Satchurator is actually quite good soundwise.... though it could be better. I prefer the BluesBreaker right now though... (my blue phase)
the Time Machine on the other hand is marvelous.... best delay I tried so far (haven't tested the eventide stuff yet though)
pros:
- DEAD quiet so even if you turn the repeats all the way up (volume wise) there's no noise (unlike on the DD-7 I tried which was horendously loud.... as in yeah it was noticeable)
- the modulation mode is a nice touch and the lofi mode helps to thin out the repeats (low and hi cut)
- tap function is great and easy to use.... and dotted repeats are easy to do.
- the uneffected signal doesn't go through A/D/A conversion
cons:
- in and out connectors are at the sides while the DC conector is at the back.... which is fine for small boss pedals but it makes this already big pedal a little too big in my book. (only a little though)
- dc jack is not mounted to the chassis but to the PCB only..... (which is the only fact I REALLY don't like about it)
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 03/14/2010 : 15:45:12
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I experiment all the time as well.
Different brands act in different ways: I have an old DOD reverb, I put that first in the chain before anything else. When it is placed at the end it distorts the sound, first in the chain it sounds clean.
I think anyone should just listen to their own sound, and make variations on how to improve your own sound. I feel the same about having a lot of different effects which do the same thing, like ten different delays, dist. ect. once you do know quite a few you have a fair idea what is good and what is not so great. Also different effects are good for different styles and different kind of set-ups.
At the moment I have a set-up which is good for overal full guitar-sound, but when I play on my own I like to experiment with different sounds, however those sounds may not work very well in bandcontext.
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