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Mansun
Gold Member

Spain
564 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2009 :  14:43:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is exactly that "dual rectifier"? I see some switchs like 'solo' or 'reverb'... Does it work like a line selector? Like presets?
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2009 :  15:56:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's the footswitch for his Mesa Boogie Roadster



http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Rectifier_Series/roadster/roadster.html

A handful of people here own them.. very very versatile and well-built amps.
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DeFrag
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USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2009 :  21:38:31  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
& heavy muthers
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tunghaichuan
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2009 :  21:46:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mansun

What is exactly that "dual rectifier"? I see some switchs like 'solo' or 'reverb'... Does it work like a line selector? Like presets?



It means that there are two vacuum tube rectifiers (5U4) in the power supply. There are also solid state rectifiers as well and a switch to choose between tube and SS.

tung
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MesaMan
Copper Member

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2009 :  09:22:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mansun

What is exactly that "dual rectifier"? I see some switchs like 'solo' or 'reverb'... Does it work like a line selector? Like presets?


Just like Tunghaichuan said, if you have never played through a Mesa then do your ears a favor and find a retailer near you and plug into one. My Roadster can do pretty much any type of music, and if you like a natural (meaning tube driven) gain then this thing will go. Check out the website it will explain any question about dual rectification, high gain, and tube operation.
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Mansun
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Spain
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Posted - 05/11/2009 :  20:22:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks everyone, I had no idea... My god, those amps are quite expensive! I have to buy one in some months but I don't think I will be able to afford one of these.
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 05/13/2009 :  02:54:25  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MesaMan

quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

i would invest in some good quality pedal board cables and a decent power supply like the voodoo labs pedal power you can get custom pedal board cable from www.lavacable.com i got mine from there


Right now I am using Monster "Rock" cables, they seem to be holding up better than most cables I used to play with. As far as power supplies go I have to admit that I use a 1spot for now, I was looking for a PS and was on a limited budget. Although I will say that it has held up well with no noise, when I build my board I plan on installing a DC Brick or equivalent.

i found the monster rock cable to be very bright sounding vs. the mogami cable
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verivorax
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Canada
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Posted - 05/13/2009 :  03:17:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mansun: Mesa amps last forever, so you'll find a lot of good quality used ones on the market. They also hold a lot more value used than almost any other "mass-production" amplifier. A used 3-channel dual rectifier head would be a great buy at $1400.. look also at their oddball stuff - the Heartbreaker and the F-series heads.

For cables I use the higher-grade Canadian-made Yorkville cables (Studio One) which uses Amphenol ends and some thick-ass BRTB cable. I find most Monster stuff overpriced (especially HDMI!!! ).. but there is something to be said for the George L's and the Evidence audio cables..
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Mansun
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Spain
564 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2009 :  21:37:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by verivorax

Mansun: Mesa amps last forever, so you'll find a lot of good quality used ones on the market. They also hold a lot more value used than almost any other "mass-production" amplifier. A used 3-channel dual rectifier head would be a great buy at $1400.. look also at their oddball stuff - the Heartbreaker and the F-series heads.



Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind as my intention is to gather a medium quality gear before I go onstage, play a lot, go to places and then maybe start earning enough money to afford one of those good amps.

I still don't get the thing with footswitches for amps... Are they digital? I mean, if you want to 'trigger' some kind of effect in your amp like reverb and you step on the switch it can't have an effect on the knobs, so it should have chips and things. I'm not sure.

And the thing with heads and cabinets, I suppose it's for easy transport, isn't it?

PS: I don't think I'll afford that sum of money with my playing but hey, dreaming is free :P

Oh, and cables: does making your cables some kind of soldering? Or is it just uniting copper wires and lots of adhesive tape? I have to make one for the second line of my pedalboard and I can't find that meassure.
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MesaMan
Copper Member

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  01:17:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mansun

quote:
Originally posted by verivorax

Mansun: Mesa amps last forever, so you'll find a lot of good quality used ones on the market. They also hold a lot more value used than almost any other "mass-production" amplifier. A used 3-channel dual rectifier head would be a great buy at $1400.. look also at their oddball stuff - the Heartbreaker and the F-series heads.



Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind as my intention is to gather a medium quality gear before I go onstage, play a lot, go to places and then maybe start earning enough money to afford one of those good amps.

I still don't get the thing with footswitches for amps... Are they digital? I mean, if you want to 'trigger' some kind of effect in your amp like reverb and you step on the switch it can't have an effect on the knobs, so it should have chips and things. I'm not sure.

And the thing with heads and cabinets, I suppose it's for easy transport, isn't it?

PS: I don't think I'll afford that sum of money with my playing but hey, dreaming is free :P

Oh, and cables: does making your cables some kind of soldering? Or is it just uniting copper wires and lots of adhesive tape? I have to make one for the second line of my pedalboard and I can't find that meassure.


Mansun, the Meas amp footswitch is all analog, it switches with relays which you can hear clicking when you switch channels. The built in reverb on the Roadster and other Mesa amp is done through one of the 12AX7 premap tubes, not a real spring reverb but it sounds awesome. The reverb adjustment is on the back of the amp and each channel has its own knob. My Roadster is a 2x12 combo, with 100 watts of 6L6 or EL34 power tubes this amp will have no problems with volume at damn near any show. I thought about a half-stack but after playing the combo I knew I did not need anything more, and most of the time I play with the amp in 50 watt setting instead of 100 watt. The only bad thing about my combo is that it is heavy..If you are going to make your own you do need a soldering iron, but soldering is not terribly difficult, just takes practice. Hope that helps!!!
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  08:28:41  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The Monsters are overpriced.

They're good cables though.
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MesaMan
Copper Member

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2009 :  13:36:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeFrag

The Monsters are overpriced.

They're good cables though.


True, but would the old adage be true? You get what you pay for? I know I could make my own cables but I guess I'm to lazy!!
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