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midibuddy
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Ecuador
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Posted - 06/08/2006 :  20:14:06  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
hi everybody!
Anyone here owns any of Tech21's products? Like the OD pedals, or one of their SansAmps models?
I'm always looking for a different or the "perfect" overdrive and distortion sounds... well I was talking yesterday to a friend and he told me that his SansAmp GT2 has some of the best distortions he has ever heard... he even told me it sometimes sounds better than his ADA MP-1...
How does a SansAmp sounds in a combo amp?
I thought that all SansAmp products were intended for direct recording, or for running direct to a mixer (no amp=Sans amp).
But it seems that some people are using them as an overdrive or distortion stomp box.

Anybody here has info about their products? Or anyone here has one of them on your rig?

any info will be very helpful

Dingus
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USA
472 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2006 :  21:26:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kurt Cobain used to use a Sansamp Classic as his main distortion during the In Utero years.
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midibuddy
Silver Member

Ecuador
285 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2006 :  17:32:32  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
yeah I read that somewhere too... Do any of you use it, or have used it ?
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visserman
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Posted - 06/22/2006 :  11:54:03  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I tend to use Sansamp pedals to create valve sound for some of my transitoramps. The Bass DI is good for this, so is the Classic and the GT2. Once you have any of the SAns pedal you will find a use for it as they are very versatile.

The Classic is able to give you good VOX midrange sounds, whereas the GT2 does not have this option. The BassDI is great for Fender alike sounds.
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midibuddy
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Ecuador
285 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2006 :  18:04:35  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your reply, viserman...
How do you use the pedal ? Like the usual overdrive/distortion box? Do you use it at the end of your effects chain and just leave it ON all the time? Or in the effects loop of your amp?
A guy here's selling me a GT2, so I'm evaluating how useful it would be...



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nibla
Bronze Member

France
131 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2006 :  16:31:05  Show Profile  Visit nibla's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I also have a sansamp bassDI, and it's one of my best piece of gear EVER!

it's very, very reliable, have phantom power possibilities and makes everything sound like an all-tube bass amp, in a bassman-ampeg way..
I can't remember how many times I went in studio with only a bass and this box, and the result...fantastic!
... and I don't know how they did that, it was a long time before amp-modeling, and far better sounding!!
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pawnshop_trash
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USA
603 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2006 :  19:56:31  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree with nibla. IMHO, the SansAmp Bass Driver DI is truly God's gift to bass players -- for people like me that can't afford a real Ampeg SVT, anyway -- and their the programmable Bass Driver version is equally good. it sounds so good, I would sell my Boss ODB-3, except that I'm trying to own every Boss compact overdrive/distortion pedal (now only 2 to go, not counting variants of the same pedal)....

Edited by - pawnshop_trash on 10/20/2006 19:57:52
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Big Boss Man
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USA
564 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2006 :  03:23:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of my first pedal boards was Boss AW-2 -> SansAmp GT-2 -> Boss GE-7 -> Boss DD-5. Those were my first Boss pedals. I bought them and the GT2 all together. I ran them directly into a PA power amp and speakers. I thought it sounded pretty good. That was ten years ago though. After that I switched to an ADA MP-2 into a Fender Super Amp. Now I don't really use amp emulators live anymore. As you stated, the SansAmp is primarily designed to go directly to a mixer or recorder and that it does well. It is possible you could get okay OD or distortion sounds with a regular guitar amp, but there are better options if that is what you are after.
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visserman
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1072 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2006 :  16:14:05  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by midibuddy

Thanks for your reply, viserman...
How do you use the pedal ? Like the usual overdrive/distortion box? Do you use it at the end of your effects chain and just leave it ON all the time? Or in the effects loop of your amp?
A guy here's selling me a GT2, so I'm evaluating how useful it would be...







First of all, sorry for my late reply, do not visit the forum as much as I used to do, been visiting more regularly in the last few days and just noticed this unansered reply so here we go:

I am using the GT2 more as a preamp, use it as last in my signalchain and yes, I keep it on all the time as it just colours my amp and all the effects which are put infront of it.

The pedal does have great distortionsounds [if you are mainly looking for those] like Marshall and Mesa sounds. The clean sounds you can get from this one are all Fender type of sounds, very much like the Twin and any of the other Fener amps.

I have A/Bed the GT-2 with a Marshall DRP [which is a Direct Recording Preamp] and it can do the same as the Marshall.

Now with the GT-2 being a preamp, do not think you cannot use it as a stompbox as you can really, in fact, all distortionpedals could be seen as a kind of preamp. The preamp idea means really that you can get the character of a certain amp to come out of your exhisting amp. Now if you have a non-character amp this idea is really great as you can get instand Marshall, Fender and Mesa.

Overal the GT-2 is very versatile, just like all the other Sansamp pedals. The whole range of them do have similar sounds but some of them may be better for certain applications.

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tomwest
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/22/2006 :  17:55:46  Show Profile  Visit tomwest's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How does the Bass DI sound with guitar?
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midibuddy
Silver Member

Ecuador
285 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2006 :  18:43:34  Show Profile  Click to see midibuddy's MSN Messenger address  Send midibuddy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
hi there visserman!
thanks for the reply..

What amp do you use?

I asume that you connect the SansAmp to the FX Return jack or the Power Amp in jack?
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Heart and Soul
Silver Member

USA
369 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2006 :  05:50:04  Show Profile  Visit Heart and Soul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm wondering the same thing as tomwest about how the Bass DI sounds with guitar...it seems like it would be a cool idea...
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 11/27/2006 :  12:21:17  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tomwest

How does the Bass DI sound with guitar?



It sounds great, can give you mainly Fender sounds on the clean setting, but can give you distorted sounds as well.

If you think of the SansClassic, the Bass DI is just one flavour of the SansClassic, so can give you less sounds than the SansClassic, but it is a lot easier to use in liveapplications.
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visserman
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1072 Posts

Posted - 11/27/2006 :  12:35:35  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by midibuddy

hi there visserman!
thanks for the reply..

What amp do you use?

I asume that you connect the SansAmp to the FX Return jack or the Power Amp in jack?




When I use the Sans I use mainly small amps [I do plug them straight into the input of the amp, so not FX Return] or go straight to a PA-system.

Use a couple of Marshalls for the 80s, they are really small [about 35 watts], and I tend to DI them to a PA when I use them for live situations.
Problem with the Marshalls is that they just give you one sound, so I use the Sans GT-2 to get Fender sounds out of em, and it works great.

Recently been playing a lot with loops made from ~DD5,DD6 and a Digitech PDS 1002~ Play with about 5 different signalchains, some have modulationeffects like chorus, others have different clean sounds ect. The whole lot is hooked up to a PA. Some of the Sans are being placed after some of the Digital Delays, again to colour up the sound and in this application they really shine. Do not really feel I miss an amp in this situation, but then I do like diffent set-ups and different amps.

I also have some larger stage-amps like FenderTwin and some other stuff. Would not really use a Sans on any of them, but then you can, as the Sans will only add colour.

When you using Preamps the thing you need to be carefull with is the overal level, you need to make shure that all levels match, but then that could also be said when you use a large effect-chain. You need to double check the whole thing--and yes--this can take some time!!
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visserman
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1072 Posts

Posted - 11/27/2006 :  12:37:31  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Heart and Soul

I'm wondering the same thing as tomwest about how the Bass DI sounds with guitar...it seems like it would be a cool idea...



Very cool indeed, do not be put off by the word "Bass", in fact a lot of bass-gear sounds great for guitar. Ever tried the GEB-7 for guitar? Great sounding EQ with a nice natural compression!!
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