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Gizzorge
Silver Member
USA
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 Posted - 08/28/2007 : 16:17:59
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In regards to LUSH.....
I always thought Robin Guthrie working with them early on in their career had a big effect on the "LUSH Sound". He produced all of the early eps, singles, and the first album. You can trace a lot of what they did back to the Cocteau Twins.
Robin Guthrie has to be considered one of the Godfathers of the shoegaze sound. He was also a Big Boss fan as well......
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Alice
Bronze Member
USA
66 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2007 : 22:27:10
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I guess that explains why they sounded so good in the beginning and then turned into a full blown pop rock band at the end. Most people I know consider "real" Lush to be their first EP's and Singles and their first album Spooky. After that It was all down hill. I still like Split though, even if it is the beginning of them doing poppier stuff.
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2007 : 23:30:50
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Originally posted by Alice
I guess that explains why they sounded so good in the beginning and then turned into a full blown pop rock band at the end. Most people I know consider "real" Lush to be their first EP's and Singles and their first album Spooky. After that It was all down hill. I still like Split though, even if it is the beginning of them doing poppier stuff.
-Alice
Split is a record I really liked as well...its been awhile since I listened to it...I remember I saw them on that tour, and there was this new band opening up for them called Weezer. Whatever happened to them  I'm joking of course.... |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2007 : 00:47:45
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How about Verve (pre-"The Verve") around 92-95 - lots of tape delay and loud overdrive courtesy of an OD-1 perhaps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_McCabe
probably "Post-Shoegaze" really... |
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Heart and Soul
Silver Member
USA
369 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2007 : 03:02:32
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sorry for not being clear...but i'll say...Loveless is easily my favourite album ever...so yeah...and yeah i've read there were few over dubs in MBV's stuff just lots of distortion from the amps and so on...i read somewhere that Kevin Shields actually used a Turbo Rat...anyone use one?...i'm curious as to how that sounds...
and i actually have a HM-2 and yeah it is good for that kind of vibe...i just don't use it as much cause the ac jack is broken or something and i hate batteries...shame really...it's a nice one...
cheers. |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2007 : 04:30:34
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| Hi heart and soul my hm-2 is an asa pedal yours may be as well. that old asa-psa thing perhaps? |
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Heart and Soul
Silver Member
USA
369 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2007 : 05:09:16
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| could be...i'm not remotely tech, minded so i wouldn't even know how to remedy it...do you need a diff. adapter?... |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2007 : 05:31:04
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| Maybe.Its well explained in the tech faq forum on this site. If you have any problems just post and someone here will try to help.This is a good site,everyone is helpful. |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2007 : 15:00:43
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Originally posted by Heart and Soul
could be...i'm not remotely tech, minded so i wouldn't even know how to remedy it...do you need a diff. adapter?...
In a nutshell, try using a "daisychain", i.e. get a five-way boss power adaptor and plug the HM-2 in alongside another Boss pedal that WILL work on your adaptor. |
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Alice
Bronze Member
USA
66 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2007 : 07:31:57
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This is kind of weird. I'm borrowing an HM-2 currently and it is an old MIJ and does require an ACA style adapt. Although, I was using it the other night with a generic PSA style adapter and it was working fine (well enough that I got a call from the neighbors to turn my shit down). Anyway I didn't realize it had a battery in it. Maybe that's why it was working with the wrong adapter.
It's easy to tell though. It should have a diagram on the bottom telling you which adapter to use and also a sticker next to the adapter jack itself saying "Use Boss ACA only" (or PSA only). Actually aren't ALL HM-2's ACA? Even the taiwanese ones?
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2007 : 08:28:28
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| As far as I know all hm-2's are aca. And yes it would work ok with the battery in it. My first pedal was a ce-2 an asa pedal that I bought off craigslist. I didn't believe the music store guy that I needed another pedal a psa one connected to make it work properly,and it was shortly after making a complete ass of myself in the music store that I found this site. Now I have 15 boss pedals powered by 2 psa adaptors! 5 of these are aca pedals and they all work fine as long as there is a psa pedal in the chain. I also have a pw-1 rocker wah that is aca that I wound up powering with an aca adaptor because the wah would cause horrible feedback if it didn't have it's own supply. I had to use batteries until I found an aca adaptor. But with compact pedals the aca ones work fine on psa power as long as there is a psa pedal connected with it in a chain. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 09/01/2007 : 10:19:50
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i was just reading through the posts on this topic...i wasn't up to speed on the shoegazer sound i guess it past me by when it came out first i was (and still am) more into blues,country and jazz rock type stuff but i still like some of the 80's pop and indie stuff as well..i was interested in what alice posted about kevin shields..i keep meaning to check out his stuff as i hear of him being spoken about in the same company as people like the edge from u2..i think i read somewhere that he used fuzz pedals as well as distortion...as for the guy from medicine..i found the way he used a four track to distort for his sound interesting,as i 've read interviews with keith richards and he used to do something similar on the early rolling stones stuff and richie blackmore from deep purple used to use (and may still do i'm not sure) a old reel to reel tape recorder as a pre amp for his marshalls.....i think if your going to try this the main thing is to make sure the four track etc is analog....as digital doesn't imho distort so good...although maybe some of the new generation 'shoegazers' may find something to use it with... ........ |
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Heart and Soul
Silver Member
USA
369 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2007 : 18:00:14
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so in a nutshell i just wanted to say i love you guys...lol...
i took the HM-2 and placed it after my TR-2 and it worked...so the daisy chain after a Boss idea worked...thanks again for all your help guys... |
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Heart and Soul
Silver Member
USA
369 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2007 : 18:11:03
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so in my excitement over my resurrected HM-2 i forgot to throw in my thoughts on 4-track pre-amps...
basically i love it...I've had an old Sony minidisc 4-track for years and one thing that was fun would be maxing the channel volume and using the headphone out as the output so that i could adjust the volume with relative ease...the clipping dist./od sounds were a bit strange and digital you might say but i'm a big fan of digital guitar playing so i kinda liked the idea...
I've also tried going from the Sony to a few pedals an even older Audio-Technica 4-track tape deck into a few diff effects into my mixer/interface...needless to say its a very saturated sound and getting clean is impossible but i just think it's good to be willing to experiment...
all that to say i'd recommend trying the 4-track pre-amp idea...
cheers.
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2007 : 19:37:57
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Good news all around Heart and Soul  your pedal works and I know what a shoegazer is |
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