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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  02:06:29  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
you guys must not be using single coils
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Miky
Silver Member

Czech Republic
184 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  03:55:35  Show Profile  Visit Miky's Homepage  Send Miky an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
+ 1 to The_Doc
very nicely said
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  04:29:02  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Does that include a noise suppressor like the ns-2.Cause i set mine just between no noise a slight noise.Cause this is a useful video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDzNsFjEk1E

Edited by - zerksies on 02/06/2010 04:31:10
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  05:00:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yo Zerks, sometimes ya just need a gate. I'm with you, buzzy single coils, or machine gun like mayhem!!!

Edited by - Pedal Dan on 02/06/2010 05:02:32
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  08:24:29  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Multi effects. I don't hate them. I'd just rather stomp on a different colored metal box to get the sounds I want. That being said the next item I buy will likely be a multi.
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The_Doc
Gold Member

United Kingdom
509 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  10:17:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Originally posted by zerksies

you guys must not be using single coils

I've never really noticed the difference when playing live zerksies, although for most of our set I'm using bucker's with only the occasional coil tap and also a Tele for just one song these days. I guess it's because of the high volume and everything else that's going on at a gig around you (people shouting, drinking, glasses clinking and folk hopefully shaking their booty, etc ).

Certainly, if we were doing a quieter set with slower songs and less instrumentation, to people who are there just to listen and absorb our music, then a noise could be a problem - but we don't do any gigs like that - old school fun-time pub-rock all the way for us

I can see Pedal Dan's point too - we favour overdriven tones and rarely stray into high gain ditsortion, so noise is going to be less pronounced. I know what you mean because when I play non-band stuff and I use the OD2 (red led) channel cranked up on my Marshall JVM the noise is a problem.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  13:40:42  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The_Doc

quote:

Originally posted by zerksies

you guys must not be using single coils

I've never really noticed the difference when playing live zerksies, although for most of our set I'm using bucker's with only the occasional coil tap and also a Tele for just one song these days. I guess it's because of the high volume and everything else that's going on at a gig around you (people shouting, drinking, glasses clinking and folk hopefully shaking their booty, etc ).

Certainly, if we were doing a quieter set with slower songs and less instrumentation, to people who are there just to listen and absorb our music, then a noise could be a problem - but we don't do any gigs like that - old school fun-time pub-rock all the way for us

I can see Pedal Dan's point too - we favour overdriven tones and rarely stray into high gain ditsortion, so noise is going to be less pronounced. I know what you mean because when I play non-band stuff and I use the OD2 (red led) channel cranked up on my Marshall JVM the noise is a problem.



No point in witing all this again as The_Doc has summed up my situation perfectly except for one thing... i use single coils....

Maybe because i grew up listening to Hendrix,Clapton,Beck,Gilmour etc..but the ocassional bit of buzz or hum is not a problem and doesn't bother me..i very rarely have noise issues unless the venue has a really bad earth which usually affects everything and we run a lighting rig with two T bars with four PAR 56 cans on either side of the stage plus two sets of disco lights and the drummer has another two PAR 56'S to light up his drums...my backup strat has a set of Fender vintage noisless pickup that i installed if things get really bad but it's never come to it yet...my regular NO-1 strat('89 USA standard) has the original Fender pickups it came with...

I don't mean to offend anyone here but the noise issue seems to be more of an issue for you guys stateside rather than europe...could it be because you have such a big area to cover with electricity that you have some sort of filtering problems with all the outside interferences....?..
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  14:21:17  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i have bought furman power conditions and have noticed less buzz but mostly i just learn to live with the single coils.But there are days when coil buzz annoys me so i use a noise supresor
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  14:25:17  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They also run at 110 volts on 60Hz, whereas we're running 220 or 230 volts on 50 Hz.
Maybe that's got something to do with it?
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  14:27:40  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dirk

They also run at 110 volts on 60Hz, whereas we're running 220 or 230 volts on 50 Hz.
Maybe that's got something to do with it?



I used to think that as well but i read on other forums that it doesn't..... how do you find the earthing and noise problems with your band Dirk...?......



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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2010 :  10:22:20  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I hate Chorus on my sound.
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2010 :  11:07:23  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI
I used to think that as well but i read on other forums that it doesn't..... how do you find the earthing and noise problems with your band Dirk...?



We have none whatsoever.

Offcourse, every Marshall hums and hisses on the boost channel and my bass amp hums a little too.
But when we're playing it's not noticable anymore.
You know how much of that shit gets eaten by loud cymbals?

I tend to notice the fact that guitar players with a noisegate, are usually some of the younger ones, playing some extreme kind of music, using way too much distortion from a "bees in a jar" pedal into some crappy solidstate amp and a way too large pedalboard with pedals, patch cords, adaptors and other things that worsen the noise problems, usually not even in a band but only in their bedrooms.

I love long sentences

Not too piss anyone off, these are just my observations.

Edited by - Dirk on 02/07/2010 11:07:55
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Blackrash
Bronze Member

USA
72 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2010 :  15:18:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Couldn't imagine using a noise gate... They just sound terrible to me.
Slowly loosing interest in my chorus/flanger as well... Actually it's slowly making it's way to my singer area and removing itself from my board...

I really love the wah though! Used to use a Crybaby JM-1, and i didn't use it much because it didn't do what I desired...

But then I got a picture wah! The RMC-4! My lord how it is absolutely amazing! I recommend everyone who hated the wah try one. I fell in love with my wah again, after leaving it unused on the board for so long
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2010 :  18:23:27  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackrash

Couldn't imagine using a noise gate... They just sound terrible to me.
Slowly loosing interest in my chorus/flanger as well... Actually it's slowly making it's way to my singer area and removing itself from my board...

I really love the wah though! Used to use a Crybaby JM-1, and i didn't use it much because it didn't do what I desired...

But then I got a picture wah! The RMC-4! My lord how it is absolutely amazing! I recommend everyone who hated the wah try one. I fell in love with my wah again, after leaving it unused on the board for so long



RMC-4 is that the one made by Teese....?

I still have my CE-2 on the board...since i got it it's never been off it as the CH-1 used to be from time to time...i wouldn't use it on everything but at times it gives a great shimmer to the sound for certain parts especially as Dirk pointed out,for any 80's covers..the Police,Pretenders etc....
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2010 :  18:30:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My gates, pedals and processors all have a threshold knob or parameter. When adjusted right, you don't even know they're there... Until you turn them off! By the way Dirk I'm 44 yr's young, and occasionally play live with a TSL100 full stack and a Triple Rec full armor stack. Just sayin'
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