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eurema
Copper Member
Ireland
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 Posted - 12/13/2009 : 03:30:10
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hey guys new user lol lovin the site finaly found what looks like a fantastic resource for info.
so my question is i recently got this pedal board for christmas and i know its comin (i was there hen it was bouaght lol) but when i am looking at it i just relised there is no seperate FX loop that i can see unless im blind
see i wanna have all 6 pedals in a row but i want my dd-7 and rv-5 to be in the Fx loop
could anyone give me any like lead to lead order as im realy confuzed and dont want it to be a wasted gift :)
i was useing a gt'6 in front before but decided recently to go to pedals (i know no delays or reverbs on my solos) i dont know how i lived lol
anyway guys have a great christmas
also im a runing a mesa dual recto head so if that helps any
any help would be much appreciated then after i get things sused ill give yas a rig tour (in pic format as i see u guys love the pedal board pics lol)
joe
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 12/13/2009 : 03:54:43
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Hi eurema
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2009 : 04:15:32
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stinkfoot
Silver Member
Sweden
181 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2009 : 06:20:52
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The pedal order goes from right to left. So the first pedal goes in the first slot (far right). Continue towards the left, adding each pedal in the order you want them. Once you've gotten to the end of the chain you want to see in front of the amp, connect the pedalboard -> amp cable there. You can of course use the board's inbuilt cables if you like - the main input is on the top right, and the output(s) are to the left. The "send" jack goes to the first pedal input, while the output from the last pedal in this chain goes to the "return" jack (there's two, so choose one and use the corresponding output jack when connecting to the amp).
Any pedals you want to run in the amp's effects loop will have to be separated from the others. You can still keep them on the board if you like, but you'll have to run a cable from the amp's effects send to the input of the first of those pedals, and another cable from the output of the last of the fx loop pedals, back to the amp's effects return. You should also use a separate power supply for those pedals, as you can get hum from using the board's power source for fx loop pedals as well as those going to the amp's input jack.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 12/13/2009 : 07:21:50
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And I belive that the majority of modern Mesa Boogie amps,
have a parallel effects loop.
Which creates its own set of tone issues.
Or at least the owners of those amp models here on the forum have been saying.
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ssanyee
Silver Member
Hungary
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Posted - 12/13/2009 : 09:11:49
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Hi eurema,
Welcome to the forum!
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eurema
Copper Member
Ireland
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Posted - 12/13/2009 : 12:20:05
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Originally posted by stinkfoot
The pedal order goes from right to left. So the first pedal goes in the first slot (far right). Continue towards the left, adding each pedal in the order you want them. Once you've gotten to the end of the chain you want to see in front of the amp, connect the pedalboard -> amp cable there. You can of course use the board's inbuilt cables if you like - the main input is on the top right, and the output(s) are to the left. The "send" jack goes to the first pedal input, while the output from the last pedal in this chain goes to the "return" jack (there's two, so choose one and use the corresponding output jack when connecting to the amp).
Any pedals you want to run in the amp's effects loop will have to be separated from the others. You can still keep them on the board if you like, but you'll have to run a cable from the amp's effects send to the input of the first of those pedals, and another cable from the output of the last of the fx loop pedals, back to the amp's effects return. You should also use a separate power supply for those pedals, as you can get hum from using the board's power source for fx loop pedals as well as those going to the amp's input jack.
/Andrea
thanx man thats very helpful lol although im not a complete noob when it comes to pedals lol so the first bit made me 
but i see what ya mean then would u guys recomend buyin a bcb 30 as well for soloy my efx loop pedals
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eurema
Copper Member
Ireland
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Posted - 12/13/2009 : 12:21:21
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also thanx to everyone for the help and the warm welcome
much appreciated
joe
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PaulH
Gold Member
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Posted - 12/13/2009 : 15:35:11
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You can set easily set up a BCB 60 (or any other pedal board) to have some pedals going direct to the front of amp, and some in the amps fx loop... it just means adding a few more cables.
Remember though that the Mesa amp probably has a parallel fx loop... So if you put any effect into it, you need to make sure it has a totally wet output from the pedal.
e.g...
50% of the main guitar signal from the preamps goes through the effects loop, and 50% bypassed to the power amp.
So if you put a pedal in the loop that you have set to have a 50/50 wet/dry mix then the actual sound you finally hear through the amp's speakers is actually 75% dry 25% wet... not what you originally thought.
Not all Boss pedals do a wet/dry split output.
Some can be forced to do wet/dry (such as connecting a "free" patch lead to one of the outputs on a CE5). |
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stinkfoot
Silver Member
Sweden
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Posted - 12/13/2009 : 17:23:48
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quote:
Originally posted by eurema
thanx man thats very helpful lol although im not a complete noob when it comes to pedals lol so the first bit made me
but i see what ya mean then would u guys recomend buyin a bcb 30 as well for soloy my efx loop pedals
I didn't know what level you were on, so I thought I'd better start at the beginning - better safe than sorry :)
If you have room on the BCB-60 for all your pedals, there's no need for a separate board. As long as the ones connected to the amp's effects loop are separated from the ones connected to the amp input, you'll be fine. It will take a couple of long cables (there will be a total of three cables going to/from the amp), but that's the only way to keep the fx loop pedals at your feet. If you never turn those off (or just turn the loop on/off from the amp's footswitch), you could just as well keep them back at the amp, of course.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 12/13/2009 : 21:26:31
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Welcome to the forum......i built my own board out of plywood weights a ton but we have a van so i don't have to carry it too far plus it let me set up the pedals the way i wanted........if your going keep all the pedals on one board it might an idea to get the guitar lead going to and from the effects loop in your amp with 90 degree connectors one one end as the pedals in those boss pedalboards can be a bit tight together...or you could have a look in the pedalboards section some people there have modded their Bcb 60's to take more pedals and with customised switching might give you some ideas.... the idea you have of running a seperate board for the stuff in the effects loop was one your namesake Joe Satraini used to do so your in good company... ...
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eurema
Copper Member
Ireland
4 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2009 : 21:37:40
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again guys thanx
lol im a big satch fan lol so thats gud to know
but i think ill go with the 3 leads to my amp solution lol ill just gaffa tape them down every time im at a gig lol which seems to be three days a week l8ly which is nice lol
but ya i guess itll be alot off trial and error lol thanx for all the help guys.  |
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