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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
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 Posted - 06/30/2006 : 14:24:42
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| Sorry if this has been posted somewhere,ive got a cs-2 recently,cant figure what does the attack knob does.no difference at all when tweaked,is it functioning or my hearing is so blunt?and,when used at the end of effects chain,not much sustain too,beats me when some say it sustains for days.another thing is yes,its noisy,if sustain knob is more than 9 0'clock,theres a constant hiss audible,think this should be normal rite?can be fixed with ns-2?Anyway,i do noticed a difference in the guitar tone,in a good way,seems clearer and more solid,wat a waste its noisssssssssy...thanks. |
Edited by - hungrymusician on 06/30/2006 14:36:14 |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2006 : 14:42:26
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Concerning the noise -
I would always put a compressor as the very first pedal in the chain (unless you've got an autowah, or another "dynamics-sensitive" pedal that should go first): If you put it last, it will amplify all the noise from earlier pedals. If it goes first, it is acting on the cleanest, quietest guitar signal possible: I like to think of compressors as "conditioning" the guitar sound, i.e boosting quieter sounds and limiting hard strums - The boosted sound will also make ODs/distortions sound better as they are receiving a fatter signal.
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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
95 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2006 : 14:46:28
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| yeah man,im placing it first in the chain,bt still the hiss,may not be a big problem as long as sustain knob is around 9 or 10 0clock.anyway,thanks,so,whats with the attack knob and sustaning function? |
Edited by - hungrymusician on 06/30/2006 14:49:06 |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2006 : 18:01:56
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The attack sets how quickly the compressor kicks in after the initial attck of the note and starts to squash the sound - As i understand it, a "low" setting on the CS-2 attack control (over to the left) is a "fast" compression and should quickly squash the signal. Setting it beyond 12 0'clock will give a slower attack time, and so will allow the peaks in your playing through relatively unsquashed, but should still sustain the tail of the note.
It's quite hard to describe sound in words, but to test if it is actually doing anything, set the Sustain and Level at 12 o'clock and play some very percussive palm-muted notes - Sweep the Attack control back and forward: You should notice at one end of the sweep the peaks are noticeably less "squashed".
Sustain-wise, as long as your guitar itself doesn't have any problems (high action, buzzy frets etc) a compressor should allow notes to sustain longer...
As for the hiss, I've heard many people complain about this "problem" with the CS-2/3: For this very reason, the only non-Boss pedals on my board are my compressors (DOD 280 re-issue and Marshall ED-1 incidentally...)
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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
95 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2006 : 20:14:30
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ok,that clears alot,thanks Leeroy,would love to hear if there are anymore opinions. |
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Dingus
Silver Member
USA
472 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2006 : 21:09:56
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| I have a very long opinion, but it's Friday and I'm trying to leave work early, so I'll follow-up later :) |
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jan
Copper Member
USA
37 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2006 : 22:57:44
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| Still using my CS-2! |
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lightburst
Silver Member
Germany
158 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2006 : 09:53:47
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I use the CS-2 as my favourite compressor! But like all opinions about pedals it�s a matter of taste!
Did you know that the CS-2 is Boss' interpretation of the famous DynaComp/Ross Compressor circuit but with an added attack control?
If you set the attack at 9'o'clock you get the DynaComp sound! |
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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
95 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2006 : 16:10:51
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oh no,now im more into believing my cs-2 is faulty,when strumming chords hard,theres an unwanted distortion,very audible,single notes/solos are ok.i can assure nothings wrong with my guitar.this is my set-up,please help if u have the answers,tx.
American standard strat>seymour duncan pickup booster>cs-2>dunlop 535-q wah>ts-9>ce-2>dd-2>DOD 15watt amp. |
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alpine_56
Copper Member
USA
49 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2006 : 22:24:15
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seymour duncan pickup booster
If you're getting distortion, that is likely the reason for it. Trying to push too much gain into the pedal then having it set too hot.
Andrew |
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hungrymusician
Bronze Member
Malaysia
95 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2006 : 10:14:14
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Turns out what Alpine said was true.now im placing the cs-2 first,followed by the booster,works like a charm!And what Leeroy said on the attack knob was spot-on.Thankyou guys,realy appreciate it.silly me!
Dingus...cant wait to hear your opinion... |
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lightburst
Silver Member
Germany
158 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2006 : 10:36:29
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| When I play my LP through any of my Dyna-like compressors (CS-2, DynaComp, Ross Compressor) I have a little distortion with every pedal. I think the circuit isn�t very save against high input levels! |
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Progger
Copper Member
USA
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Posted - 07/02/2006 : 17:51:59
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| I generally place the CS-2 last as a limiter, but I have only had it for a few months. I use a block Dyna Comp, first in my chain followed by a MoogerFooger filter, DOD 250 Overdrive, MXR Phase 100, MXR Flanger, Boss CE-2, DOD analog delay....all before the CS-2. One has to cut the level in order to avoid hiss. I tend to crank the attack around 5:00 (just like the manual suggests). Personally, I like the way I can play rhythm while emphasizing melodic lines at the same time with this arrangement. The two compressors seem to tighten the effect chain but I really have to crank the amp due to cutting the level with the CS at the end (not a bad thing to me). For just using a compressor for "endless" sustain, I still prefer my old DOD 280 (grey with orange font). As they say, your mileage may vary....I am more of a hobbyist. |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2006 : 20:49:48
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Originally posted by Progger
For just using a compressor for "endless" sustain, I still prefer my old DOD 280 (grey with orange font).
Oh yes, I think these DOD compressors are brilliant - Two knobs, no messing...
I often think the more simple the pedal, the more likely it is to find favour with musicians in the long run - The CE-2 is considered Boss's best compact chorus, several people on this board have stated that the (2 knob) CS-1 is the best of the compressors, and the OD-1 is looking pretty popular nowadays... |
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any cs-2 users?
