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stratman
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Australia
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Posted - 02/09/2007 :  00:24:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
StratoSphere... I agree. And DeFrag... I agree.

(Must be in a good mood this morning ) Seriously though, I do see where you're both coming from.

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something else that came to my mind. does sustain really matter? why is better sustain necessarily a good thing? in all my years of playing i dont think i ever sat there and strummed a chord and timed how long the notes rang saying "now THAT is good sustain!"


Very funny! Reminds me of Spinal Tap...

Nigel Tufnel: The sustain, listen to it.
Marty DiBergi: I don't hear anything.
Nigel Tufnel: Well you would though, if it were playing.
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 02/09/2007 :  11:33:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It has maybe been touched on above but with a bolted neck you have wood/wood and on a glued neck you have wood/glue/wood. And I´m sure that glue is not as good as wood on conducting sound.
I have seen glued neck guitars with loosened necks and some of them had rather big pockets/holes filled with glue. So the quality of the workmanship, as noted above, is very important.

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StratoSphere
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Canada
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Posted - 02/09/2007 :  13:39:50  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
bahaha. stratman, thats a classic scene. that whole movie is full of great quotes
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visserman
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Posted - 05/19/2007 :  11:53:21  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nothing more to add to this discussion apart from that a bolted on neck feels very different and sounds very different than a glued in neck. Bolted on necks may sound more transparent, but that may be just my personal experience.

I like em both for different kinds of music and feel
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Erik dP
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Sweden
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Posted - 05/19/2007 :  14:08:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Article from a guitar store (with an attitude - www.edromanguitars.com):

There Are Many Types of Neck Construction.

Bolt-On: Cheapest to manufacture, it has a unique tonal capability and is very common. Not recommended because the heel is too big. The design is very old and the neck joint is cumbersome. Tonal abilities are excellent as long as the neck is a very tight fit. (Sometimes you have to play 30 of them before you get one that sounds good.) That will be the one with the tight neck joint.
Fender, Ibanez, G&L, ESP, Musicman, Washburn, Charvel, and most imported guitars.

Bolt-In: Excellent alternative to bolt-on. Same tonal ability, plus many of the set-neck abilities. Much more expensive, so very few companies offer it. Highly recommended because the heel is buried in the body. In fact, I highly recommend it over just a plain set-neck. (Works best acoustically coupled.) Currently no other companies have this except PRS & Quicksilver. Best for tone & sustain if the neck is tight & pickup is mounted directly in the cavity.

Set-Neck: Less expensive and most common. I am not a fan of this one. Are millions of Les Pauls poorly designed and wrong? (A very Definite YES !!!!) Not recommended as highly due to limited tonal abilities. (Glue does not transfer sound well.) Plus, set-neck guitars are the ones that always break easily. Gibson, McInturff, Hamer, Warrior, Epiphone, Guild, Heritage, & many more.

Neck-Thru: Expensive and uncommon, I used to like this type the best until I discovered Deep-Set Neck Tenon.
Highly recommended, due to much more sustain, plus pickups are mounted right in the neck. BC Rich, Jackson, Rickenbacker, Jacobs, & Abstract.

Deep-Set: Neck Tenon Most expensive to do, but definitely the best sounding and the most cosmetically appealing. Very highly recommended due to same reasons as a neck-through, but with the added attraction of keeping the top intact. You may sacrifice some Strat and Tele tones but the blues tone is awesome. James Jaros, Rick Gledura, Centurion,Viking, & Quicksilver.
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visserman
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Posted - 05/21/2007 :  11:44:44  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good article Erik!!
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zestystrat
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USA
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Posted - 05/21/2007 :  20:39:41  Show Profile  Visit zestystrat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hard to compare sustain on strat vs a gibson when some are semi hollow (335) or have 2x as much mass (Les Paul). Both are factors in creating sustain IMO.
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