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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
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 Posted - 02/14/2007 : 08:17:33
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Originally posted by Goran
...So I prefer a bunch of good rather cheap guitars before one or two top-name-models. It�s fun to have a lot of guitars (and pedals�)
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2007 : 10:20:48
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Originally posted by tomwest
How do you like the wave Bossarea, they really intrigue me, the interchangeable body shells are especially cool, and parts of the body are made out of some wood/plastic polymer/resin/amalgamation aren't they? They did a mini-review of it in Total Guitar this month but I saw them a while back on ebay when searching for Orange amps.
I really do like it. They call it wood based polymer but I call it plastic and the whole body is made of it. I'm a little worried about the stability of the neck joint because the neck doesn't go very far into the body and the body is plastic which is very soft compared to wood. So far it seems to hold up perfectly though. The positioning of the controls are just excellent. Easy to reach but no danger of flipping a switch when playing. Would have liked a 5-way switch instead of the 3-way though.
The sound of it is what I like most. It's a little bit thin so to me it sounds best in the middle position with both humbuckers. I get a great Alex Liefson, 2112 sound from it.
Body shells retails at $250 in the US. I got the bright orange one and fancy at least one more colour. They will be more expensive over here so I hope to find a web shop that sells worldwide.
Guitar Buyer Magazine is testing the Wave in their February issue, don't know if the mag is out yet. However, they never give a score less than 3 on their 5 scale so I suspect they're in pocket of the distributors. |
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stratman
Silver Member
Australia
283 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2007 : 10:20:49
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Originally posted by starr36
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Originally posted by Goran
...So I prefer a bunch of good rather cheap guitars before one or two top-name-models. It�s fun to have a lot of guitars (and pedals�)
Amen.
I'm the complete opposite on this...
IMHO, it depends on what you think a "good" guitar should be like. Or what value you place on the build and sound qualities of more expensive guitars. Personally, I place a lot of value on those things. (just my opinions here!!!)
For me, I own a few "cheap" guitars (Ibanez, Epiphone, Schecter etc) and I'd call them "good" and great value for money too!!! However, they're not great - well, not great compared to my most expensive guitar (AmDlx Strat - it's Custom Shop standard, no doubt)
I find that I play the Strat 99% of the time. I'll tend to play the others if I'm after a VERY particular sound, or my hands are dirty, or Strat strings need changing. My Strat covers a lot of tonal variations (it has those SCN stacked humbuckers with the S1 switch - they're pretty amazing, believe me)
(...I don't play any real heavy stuff so they do for most tones)
But since I got the Strat, I just don't touch the others anymore.
It probably would depend on what the expensive guitar was though.
e.g. if you only has a Les Paul with super-high output pups then you'd probably be better off with a few cheaper guitars instead of the LP - very limited in sounds. Or only had an uber-expensive Gretsch - again, fairly limited in sounds (depending on model, that is) - so a range of cheapies would probably do you better.
All that being said, I just don't play my less expensive guitars anymore. They don't come close to my Strat in sound, feel or the pleasure I get out of playing, holding and even looking at the darn thing! But I'm a pretty sick person when it comes to my guitars 
But I'd have to agree it sure is fun to have a few and even to play around with. I used to play around with them all, just not anymore.
It's why I love pedals so much. With pedals, I can get just about any sound from my main guitar and amp. The guitar and amp by themselves are just the basis of a perfect clean tone. The "foundation" of my tone.
Pay the big bucks for the guitar and amp, I say, and then add all the colour you like with effects. But for me, great tone starts with the guitar and ends with the amp. They deserve the money to be spent.
Just my $0.02 worth... or should that be $20000.00 worth  |
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stratman
Silver Member
Australia
283 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2007 : 10:24:52
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Originally posted by DeFrag
Some Epiphones feel great, while some do not.
And some Fenders and Gibsons feel great, while some feel crap!
Although I've not come across one PRS that feels/sounds crap and I'm sure there are plenty more "boutique" guitars that are pretty much all great. |
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zestystrat
Silver Member
USA
283 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2007 : 17:07:48
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It's funny that you say that about PRS. After years of playing some mid level gtrs I bought a new 1991 PRS custom 24 ten top. It's a beauty.
But eventually my ears changed and I went to G&L and a Legacy Special. I have a few of them bought off ebay one for $450 and another for $600. For me they feel like custom shop gtrs and when new they are MUCH cheaper and a better value.
Now the word is out on G&L so it's harder to find good deals on them on ebay.
Every now and then I go back to the PRS if I'm recording or I am looking for a change, but I always go back to the strat / G&L. Not that I think it's a crappy PRS but I just don't have the same love for it I used to.
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RRV-10
Silver Member
Australia
246 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2007 : 01:46:55
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I bought a Godin Solidac new about two years ago after a weekend driving to what felt like every guitar store in Melbourne, trying out maybe 50 or so guitars. It has an HSH configuration with an acoustic pickup on the bridge. It had more versatility and a stronger voice than others instruments in the price range. I certainly wasn't impressed with the Fender Highway series and Epiphones. With the LM-2 you can get some nice acoustic tones with it through a regular guitar amp.
I paid AUD$1200 (I believe they're a fair bit cheaper in the USA) and felt you had to spend another $600-800 dollars for a noticeable improvement in the instrument. I found a particularly good sky blue USA strat, but reasoned it was better to save $800 and invest it in a Fender tube amp then use a $2k guitar with a tiny intro-package quality solid state practice amp for 6-12 months. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2007 : 08:17:46
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[size=2]I'm the complete opposite on this...
IMHO, it depends on what you think a "good" guitar should be like. Or what value you place on the build and sound qualities of more expensive guitars. Personally, I place a lot of value on those things. (just my opinions here!!!)
For me, I own a few "cheap" guitars (Ibanez, Epiphone, Schecter etc) and I'd call them "good" and great value for money too!!! However, they're not great - well, not great compared to my most expensive guitar (AmDlx Strat - it's Custom Shop standard, no doubt)
I find that I play the Strat 99% of the time. I'll tend to play the others if I'm after a VERY particular sound, or my hands are dirty, or Strat strings need changing. My Strat covers a lot of tonal variations (it has those SCN stacked humbuckers with the S1 switch - they're pretty amazing, believe me)
(...I don't play any real heavy stuff so they do for most tones)
But since I got the Strat, I just don't touch the others anymore.
It probably would depend on what the expensive guitar was though.
e.g. if you only has a Les Paul with super-high output pups then you'd probably be better off with a few cheaper guitars instead of the LP - very limited in sounds. Or only had an uber-expensive Gretsch - again, fairly limited in sounds (depending on model, that is) - so a range of cheapies would probably do you better.
All that being said, I just don't play my less expensive guitars anymore. They don't come close to my Strat in sound, feel or the pleasure I get out of playing, holding and even looking at the darn thing! But I'm a pretty sick person when it comes to my guitars
But I'd have to agree it sure is fun to have a few and even to play around with. I used to play around with them all, just not anymore.
It's why I love pedals so much. With pedals, I can get just about any sound from my main guitar and amp. The guitar and amp by themselves are just the basis of a perfect clean tone. The "foundation" of my tone.
Pay the big bucks for the guitar and amp, I say, and then add all the colour you like with effects. But for me, great tone starts with the guitar and ends with the amp. They deserve the money to be spent.
Just my $0.02 worth... or should that be $20000.00 worth
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I�m in the lucky position to have a couple of high end guitars too, CS Fender 1957 Strat and a 52 RI Telecaster. Sure they are better than the around $400 guitars, but I also like to have 10-15 cheaper ones to get diversity, Gretsch, MIJ Strats & teles, Yamaha 335 and arch top, Ibanez Artist etc.
But if I had to choose between an expensive CS Strat and 5-10 quality cheap guitars I probably stick to the 5-10.
One thing that comes to my mind is that on my CS Strat I haven�t done nearly nothing. But on the cheaper ones I have filed the nuts, worked on the frets a bit, changed pups etc. And I really like to work on my guitars, that�s part of the pleasure.
How nice it is to buy a cheap not-so-good guitar and spend some hours on it and turn it into a really good guitar.
And cheap guitar (with original pups) is not equal to bad sound, if you ever heard Hound Dog Taylor�s wild music and the raw gutsy sound he got out of a ultra cheap Japanese 60�s guitar you know what I�m talking about�..
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stratman
Silver Member
Australia
283 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2007 : 14:12:34
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I hear what you're saying Goran.
I also love playing around with cheap guitars too. And improving them by working on them.
Each to their own though.  |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2007 : 22:05:48
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i've done both as well,worked on cheap guitars until i got them to a gigging level and just bought good guitars off the bat.....the best strat i have played in years is my friends gallagher custom shop strat....hands down...a serious piece of kit but he payed 3000 euro for it so you do get what you pay for.... but i have a old jap squier strat and tele(if you get your hands on these jap squiers hold on to them)from the late 80's and i've rewired them ,put in new pickups and some new tuners and they are really good guitars but my baby is my '67 fender coronado(like a es330 with a strat neck) it just has that mojo................ |
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nosi0
Gold Member
Netherlands
511 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2007 : 07:06:43
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| I think Ibanez is great. if you want a guitar that's worth more than the money, they have it. if you want a great guitar they have the prestige series. if you want a cheap guitar which you can mod they have it. it's just great IMO My favorite is the JS1000BTB though. looks great, feels great, sounds like the best. Those are some nice guitars you found bossarea. i'm not too sure about the idea of plastic though. |
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nibla
Bronze Member
France
131 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2007 : 09:57:41
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2007 : 20:35:46
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ya i have an Ibanez Gio (left handed of course ). i paid 125 CAD for it and i bought it with the intention of fixing it up or at least for parts.
its my go-to guitar. visually, its nothing special but i still cant believe the quality. especialy of the hardware and pickups. |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2007 : 21:20:56
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I have a Martin OMC-15E that I paid waay too much money for. So, I'm in Guitar Center yesterday in the acoustic room looking at banjos & the like, when I look closer at all the Martin guitars. They have surprisingly affordable Martins down into the $300-400 range! Their reputation for build quality & legendary tone are to die for. Taylor makes some good guitars as well. My heart's set on a banjo next though. TWWwwang!  |
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leonard d rock
Silver Member
Philippines
301 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2008 : 10:16:01
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| i think yamaha has probably the most consistent build quality at all price ranges. i've tested a lot from my own, friends and those displayed in stores and they're pretty good right out of the box. the set up is good you can buy one and gig comfortably without setting it up first. compared to the squiers of the same price, the yamahas are better.even the guitar packages are good. the most modest yamahas have 22 frets and a humbucker while on other brands, the more you features you want, the higher the price. so if was going to buy a new one i'd choose yamaha. but if i really had money i'd buy a fender hiway 1. |
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maxm3210
Copper Member
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2008 : 23:50:19
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I think that Rondo guitars offer awesome deals with guitars that sound great and are inexpensive. Other wise I would go for an IBANEZ RG 120
rondomusic.com |
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