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DeFrag
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Posted - 04/19/2007 :  05:14:23  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Bloody damn.. cut my left index to the bone preppin' some grub tonight. I suppose my licks will be out of commission for a while. I think others would say I need stitches but as long as I keep it closed I think it'll fair well. Hmm.. I think as it heals up, I should kinda exercise it so the scar tissue won't restrict bending the finger when done. Think I'm right?

jack
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USA
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Posted - 04/19/2007 :  06:31:12  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You need to make sure that there is no tendon or nerve damage, which may be hard to diagnose yourself, so you may want to seek professional help. If you think no tendons or nerves are affected (but it sounds like a deep cut, so more than likely....), but if you think things are okay, I have heard of wrestlers using Krazy Glue (or was it Super Glue?) to seal wounds shut. I am not a doctor though, and cannot be responsible for anything that may result from this type of procedure....
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 04/19/2007 :  06:41:52  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
True. I've heard of the Super Glue or NewSkin deal. Its only numb or tingly if I crank the bandaid down. I'll be sure to watch carefully.. I wouldn't want to chance permanent damage. Anyway, I think its fairly minor as far a deep cuts go but sucks nonetheless.

From experience, (flipped a 3-wheeler up in Alaska back in '85) & basically ate gravel.. landing on the back of both hands scraping them up pretty good. The right hand was in a cast & the abrasions healed with no scarring. Yet, the left hand which I had changed bandages daily for a week or so indeed scarred a bit. So much for the changing bandages theory.

Edited by - DeFrag on 04/19/2007 06:45:50
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 04/19/2007 :  11:29:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When waiting for your index to cure you could always play slide guitar! Put the slide on your pinkie and wail away!
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 04/19/2007 :  15:37:32  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Goran

When waiting for your index to cure you could always play slide guitar! Put the slide on your pinkie and wail away!



Now THERE'S an idea! Thanks Gor
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 04/20/2007 :  08:09:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
DeFrag: Get yourself a decent metal slide, I like them more than glass. It�s important that it is quite heavy and fits your pinkie as good as possible. You an put something inside the slide to make it fit better, I use Velcro (the soft side/piece).
Tune the guitar in open G or A, they�re easiest to get a good sound.
Search Internet for tips and I promise you hours of fun. It�s really good to know slide-work even if you play heavy metal.
Cheapo guitars often are the best for slide work, but I prefer Strats with blocked tremolo.
Oh, pedals are fine to slide, I often use CS-2 > SD-2 > DM-2 > RV-3, but anything goes of course.

Edited by - Goran on 04/20/2007 08:11:04
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 04/20/2007 :  15:56:40  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
How does open-D compare? I have a brass Harris slide from Dunlop that's curved but its a size too large. Sometimes I use it anyway but know little about the advantages in the different open keys.

Edited by - DeFrag on 04/20/2007 16:03:14
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 04/23/2007 :  08:12:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Open D is the same as playing open E but two steps downtuned.
If you have heavy strings (recommended for slide) tuning down is OK but with lighter stings it will be hard playing slide, the slide will touch the frets way to easy.
Rising the string high a bit makes things easier.
Playing slide in standard tuning is a nightmare� very difficult but can be done of course.
Open A or G works best for me but there a lots of other tunings, a good advice, keep to one or two tunings at least in the beginning.
The curved slides are fine when playing chords but a little messy when used for single string runs. You can make a slide easy by yourself, I use wrench sockets, using a hacksaw to remove the part I don�t need (this IS heavy work).
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 04/23/2007 :  21:39:21  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i'm a plumber and on a job a while back i found about 3ft of brass pipe the same thickness for slide.... but i've cut the necks off wine bottles in the past but i kept breaking them when i dropped it off my finger to the floor in the middle of a gig....looks like i won't have to buy slides for a while.... sorry to hear you cut yourself defrag...i know the feeling,i've had some bad ones over the years in my job,i had a discussion with stratosphere about this a while ago,he's a sheet metal worker and has had a few bad ones as well...a real bummer when you can't play your guitar....

p.s......i've heard guinness is good for blood loss....

p.p.s i like my tr2 when i'm playing slide sometimes for that ry cooder/sonny landreth 'down on the bayou' sort of vibe..

Edited by - FRANZONI on 04/23/2007 21:58:44
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Goran
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Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2007 :  08:26:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can play slide with everything that�s hard enough� Cut off wine bottles are often used but I don�t like them as they are often bulky and the sound of it are better suited for acoustics (my opinion!).
I�ve seen Jim Cippolina playing slide with a BIC lighter, and it sounded very good.
If you find pipes of the right dimension like Franzoni you found a treasure!!! Slides are way overpriced so making them by yourself are both funny and economical.
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/24/2007 :  12:06:41  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A nice party trick is to borrow someone's pint in the pub and use it as a slide.
It's so big you won't do any precision work but it looks cool
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 04/24/2007 :  12:36:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bossarea

A nice party trick is to borrow someone's pint in the pub and use it as a slide.
It's so big you won't do any precision work but it looks cool


Or a beer bottle including beer, play a couple of slide riffs with it and during the break drink some to power up for the next riff�
I have used lots of different slides, even a Steven bar (the ones used for Lap steels), and the few that I like the most I�m really careful with (not to loose them), all of them are home made out of piping or wrench sockets. I can�t stress enough how important a good slide is, and I can�t say what a good slide is, this is very personal.
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 04/24/2007 :  14:28:53  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Goran

quote:
Originally posted by bossarea

A nice party trick is to borrow someone's pint in the pub and use it as a slide.
It's so big you won't do any precision work but it looks cool


Or a beer bottle including beer, play a couple of slide riffs with it and during the break drink some to power up for the next riff�
I have used lots of different slides, even a Steven bar (the ones used for Lap steels), and the few that I like the most I�m really careful with (not to loose them), all of them are home made out of piping or wrench sockets. I can�t stress enough how important a good slide is, and I can�t say what a good slide is, this is very personal.



Hi Goran & Guys
I make my own slides as well, & I have made a few for my friends as well.

For the glass slides, I use a Diamond Dust fret saw blade, to make 2 cuts on the neck of a wine bottle.
Some necks, are tapered & some a pretty straight.
I have even made a half slide, it's just a very short glass slide.

I als make them from crome plated brass, this is usually from the tube that you make, bathroom towel rails from.

I have a stainless steel one as well, the stainless is a heavier gauge steel, & the chrome plated brass rail is of a lighter gauge.

I have had a great deal of success, using the Valve-Tube shield covers from 12AX7 mini 9 pin valves, in old amplifiers or radios.

I read somewhere, when I was very young, that this is what some of the old classic blues players, used to use.

They shield covers are made from light gauge aluminum.
They can sound thin on acoustic, but they sound great, with a bit of overdrive on an electric.

Oh yeah, make sure that the tubing that you use, doesn't have any seams down its length, else you will get strange noises & miss fret the notes. (well you know what I mean).

Regards Dr. Bob

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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 04/24/2007 :  14:34:18  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi DeFrag
This was once your thread, about your badly cut finger.
It seems to have gone south, & taken up a life of its own.

I hope your finger is getting much better.

Are you able to move it, after the deep cut?
Are you playing, ---- even a bit?

Regards Dr. Bob
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2007 :  15:35:56  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And remember, it could have been worse...

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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 04/24/2007 :  15:36:48  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hey Bob.
My oversized bandaid comes off for good today. I changed it every other day & there was no red edges like you normally see with infection. When it happened, I bled the thing under cold water for 15 minutes to wash the nasties away & held firm pressure for another 30. A dab of antibactieral goo.. I took excellent care first-aid of it. The edges lineup & I expect minimal scarring which is good because it overlaps a mid-finger knuckle by 2mm. Still a bit swollen but movement is great.

I have professional guitar lessons every Tuesday so Monday nights are my scramble practice.. I did fine. Thanks for asking Bob I'm actually glad to see the thread degenerate into slide guitar.. we should kick around the different open tunings for a while! There's nothin' like action on a thread you've created eh? hah
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