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Sparco
Copper Member

Canada
16 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2009 :  23:01:47  Show Profile  Visit Sparco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd like to get some opinions on Boss Octave pedals, before I buy one on Ebay!

I've used the boss OC-3, but wasn't really impressed with it.

From what I've heard the older models are where its at!

Is the OC-2 my only other boss option????

Any help would be appreciated!

-Sparco

Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2009 :  23:08:25  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
At the risk of being called a heretic... Buy an EHX POG. It kills the Boss octavers.
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chrissydamage
Silver Member

United Kingdom
180 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  00:19:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I quite like the OC-2 but it is one of the most random and unpredictable effects I've ever used - they're good if you can get them cheap but if you want something reliable look elsewhere perhaps....

That EHX POG thing certainly looks pretty awesome ;)

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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  02:26:06  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i prefer the oc-2 over the 3.why would boss put an oc2 mode on it.if it was not good or better
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  03:12:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Excuse my ignorance but is OC3 analog or digital based?
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Sparco
Copper Member

Canada
16 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  07:16:26  Show Profile  Visit Sparco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The POG is pretty sick! The reason I like the OC-2 as well, is the minimal amount of control. The Boss effect pedals on my board are all 3-knob ones (except the DD-20). Hence why I'd prefer some with less bells and whistles. Although I'm very impressed with the POG!

Was there ever an OC-1 or any other Boss octave pedal?

-Sparco
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  07:19:34  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sparco

The POG is pretty sick! The reason I like the OC-2 as well, is the minimal amount of control. The Boss effect pedals on my board are all 3-knob ones (except the DD-20). Hence why I'd prefer some with less bells and whistles. Although I'm very impressed with the POG!

Was there ever an OC-1 or any other Boss octave pedal?

-Sparco


No, there was no OC-1. And the OC-2 does track like crap.
http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4131

The PS series pedals do shifting, but not sure how good they are.

cctsim - the OC-3 is very definitely digital. See http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6954

Edited by - Laurie on 08/06/2009 07:20:29
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jsoi_narciso
Silver Member

Philippines
200 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  10:11:12  Show Profile  Send jsoi_narciso a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

At the risk of being called a heretic... Buy an EHX POG. It kills the Boss octavers.



but POG do kill your wallet
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member

United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  10:35:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

...the OC-2 does track like crap...


You have to adjust your technique quite a bit: Strong, clean picking for each note, preferably with a plectrum: It doesn't like hammer-ons/pull-offs either. Also, the tracking is greatly inmproved when using the neck pick-up rather than bridge or a mix, and maybe with the tone rolled off a little. A compressor in front of the OC-2 improves the tracking 100%. In fact, when I first saw Laurie's tracking chart above, I tried mine out with a compressor and could get clean tracking on virtually every note on the fretboard - Please ote this is for the -1 octave only: The -2 octave tracks less well, and is virtually inaudible on the lower strings anyway (I never use -2 oct, so it doesn't bother me).

I like the sound of the OC-2 (I've never tried the OC-3 though). Works really well for quasi-unison bass/guitar riffs.

Edited by - Leeroyfunk on 08/06/2009 10:37:45
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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
756 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  16:09:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Here's my 2 cents on octavers and octaving:

- Boss PS series are just ok at octaving (I own all 3). They track a bit better than the OC-3 (I don't own an OC-2 so I can't compare it). The PS pedals do tend to sound digital and metallic. Ocatave is just one of the things these do and the real fun of the PS pedals is the other stuff they do...

- Boss OC-3... I hate it, tracking is terrible, although it is a little better at tracking with a compressor in front. All it really does is octave and it doesn't do it particularly well.

I do/have also owned these non-Boss octavers:

- Exar OC-04, Tracking pretty good (better than the OC-3) and has good tone control

- Pearl OC-07, Good tracking but a collector's item so way more expensive than the effect is worth.

This is what you want:

- Electro Harmonix POG, Micro POG or POG2. I have a POG2 and it leaves all the other octavers and pitch shifters I've tried for dead. Tracking is flawless. The POG and POG2 also allow you to create organ like sounds if you want which are pretty awesome (let's see an OC-3 do that!)

I have also just bought an Eventide PitchFactor online which I'll review after it arrives. These are pretty expensive but are supposed to be the bees knees of pitch shifting.
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2009 :  18:06:22  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cctsim

Excuse my ignorance but is OC3 analog or digital based?


Digital
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member

United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2009 :  16:19:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

quote:
Originally posted by cctsim

Excuse my ignorance but is OC3 analog or digital based?


Digital



I know it's been asked before, but I couldn't find an answer with the search function, so here goes again:

Does anyone know if the "OC-2" mode on the OC-3 is actually a genuine (i.e. analog) recreation of the OC-2 circuit, or is it just a digital emulation of the OC-2's -1 AND -2 octave sound?
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2009 :  17:13:31  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leeroyfunk

quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

quote:
Originally posted by cctsim

Excuse my ignorance but is OC3 analog or digital based?


Digital



I know it's been asked before, but I couldn't find an answer with the search function, so here goes again:

Does anyone know if the "OC-2" mode on the OC-3 is actually a genuine (i.e. analog) recreation of the OC-2 circuit, or is it just a digital emulation of the OC-2's -1 AND -2 octave sound?


The OC-3 is 100% digital.
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Sparco
Copper Member

Canada
16 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2009 :  00:57:55  Show Profile  Visit Sparco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've borrowed a OC-2, to try out and possibly purchase.

Any reccomendations for where it should go in my chain of pedals?

Here's the set-up

Boss Tuner TU-2 -> Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer -> Boss Fuzz FZ-3 -> Boss EQ GE-7 -> MXR EVH Phase 90 -> Boss Noise Suppressor NS-2.

For those intrested, I also have a Boss DD-20 Giga Dealy in my FX Loop! With my Mesa/Boogie Rectifier Channel switcher, one more pedal should fill my board, sadly.

-Sparco
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chrissydamage
Silver Member

United Kingdom
180 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2009 :  01:19:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sparco

I've borrowed a OC-2, to try out and possibly purchase.

Any reccomendations for where it should go in my chain of pedals?

Here's the set-up

Boss Tuner TU-2 -> Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer -> Boss Fuzz FZ-3 -> Boss EQ GE-7 -> MXR EVH Phase 90 -> Boss Noise Suppressor NS-2.

For those intrested, I also have a Boss DD-20 Giga Dealy in my FX Loop! With my Mesa/Boogie Rectifier Channel switcher, one more pedal should fill my board, sadly.

-Sparco



After the tuner but before everything else, definately.

Its a bit more stable with a compressor before the octaver; but not that much ;)

If you put it last in the chain it'll just function as a random noise generator, it will get very confused with the dirty signal and be all over the place
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Some Weird Sin
Bronze Member

Netherlands
73 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2009 :  09:44:43  Show Profile  Visit Some Weird Sin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I own an OC-2 and a POG2

Although the OC-2 has a warm sound, its tracking especially on the low strings is not very good. This you can also sometimes use to get interesting unexpected sounds.

The POG2 is far superior in terms of tracking, sounds and tone-shaping possibilities (Boss fiends here might be interested to know that you can emultae a slow gear with it too) - and it had eight presets!

The only downside is that it breaks the bank

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