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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 08/15/2008 :  16:50:09  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well done..... if your guitar amp has a line in or a effects loop can i suggest trying the XLR through either..if your going in to the effects loop plug into the return on the loop...this way you will bypass the preamp on the guitar amp and just use the power amp section which might improve the sound a bit more for you..... i think taking a wild guess that what you did using the XLR cable as the Doc pointed out,is changed the capacitance a bit....as for the XLR out on the guitar,what make is it..? .... i gave our singer a cheap passive D.I. box i had for his ovation acoustic with a piezo and it is a big improvement on the sound as these guitars can be trebly to begin with....

Edited by - FRANZONI on 08/15/2008 16:52:24
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leonard d rock
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Philippines
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Posted - 08/17/2008 :  07:18:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi guys.

re your questions:

1.the cable is marked "Schuler high impedance low noise cfc microphone cable USA."

2. the xlr out is from the stock preamp of a manito dg200c guitar sold here. it also has a 1/4 phone out which i usually used. http://www.manitoguitars.net/

3. a friend who owns the same model guitar plugged it into a PA mixer using the same cable and couldn't believe the sound.

4. unfortunately, my amp doesn't have an effects loop or line in.

i can now tweak the amp's EQ or the guitar's EQ and get whatever sound i want. however, nothing beats a guitar mic with a pair of microphones.

My question nobody answered yet: Do all acoustic-electrics have both
xlr and 1/4 outs
i looked at magazine pictures and most ads show a 1/4 jack coming out of the guitar's bottom.

regards, LDR

nb. do you think the xlr out is wired differently than the 1/4 jack that makes the differences?

Edited by - leonard d rock on 08/17/2008 14:31:55
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 08/17/2008 :  07:35:49  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by leonard d rock
Do all acoustic-electrics have both
xlr and 1/4 outs?
i looked at magazine pictures and most ads show a 1/4 jack coming out of the guitar's bottom.



Mine is 1/4 inch only. To get it into the PA I use a simple passive DI box.
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 08/17/2008 :  15:04:24  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Possibly your XLR is wired like a built in D.I. box inside the guitar that converts your signal from high impedance to low impedance,most school of thought is that this sounds best for the acoustic through a P.A system as low impedance loses less frequencys over a long cable than high ones....as for your question regarding other guitars...i've never heard of them having a built in XLR apart from a Les Paul from the early 70's (i think it was the recording model)...i'm glad things worked out for you....

P.S. Probably a piece of usless info but i read about a studio trick where if you have to run the guitar a long way from the amp you can use a couple of DI boxes in reverse.. i.e .. guitar out into high Z input...low XLR out... into low XLR on other DI then high Z out into amp...i think they came up with this for guitar players in the control room with the amp in the sound booth in isolation,according to reports it works pretty well keeping the guitar signal juiced...

P.P.S.....another piece of usless info but Les Paul originally designed the pickups to be low impedence for his design.... his own model he uses has low impedance pickups..once again he was way ahead of his time.....


Edited by - FRANZONI on 08/17/2008 15:12:43
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leonard d rock
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Philippines
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Posted - 08/19/2008 :  03:42:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

Possibly your XLR is wired like a built in D.I. box inside the guitar that converts your signal from high impedance to low impedance,....



hi franzoni and everybody. thats what i was thinking about my guitar having a built in DI. i'll try to get pictures of it inside if i can open it up easily. you may want to check out that guitar as it is sold under many (budget) brands. thanks for your replies!

LDR
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