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phostenix
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USA
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  03:36:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bossarea,

Thanks for all the pix! I never tire of looking at all those little numbers....

There sure are a lot of different styles, aren't there? Even 2 versions of the sans serif - the 0's are square on the LM-2 & the CS-2. But you don't have any oddities like Lighburst & Sunburst, it looks like.

What's inside that CE-2? Wood chips?

Looks like the DM-2 had a leak, too. So, then they put the sticker on the bottom label and they get ripped off with the velcro....

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phostenix
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USA
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  05:33:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lightburst,

I don't have a schematic for the RV-2, but there is a possiblilty that it has a voltage/current regulating transistor in it that will give its life to save the others when over-voltaged. Boss uses that in some of their pedals. If you are inclined to work on it, it would be worth checking before you gut it.

Rocktron sent out a batch of pedals with the wrong power jack - the one with the larger center pin. I've gotten 2 of these from the same guy who tried some unknown power adapter on them since they didn't take the standard Boss style. 1 had the transistor regulator that made the supreme sacrifice. After replacing it, the pedal works great. The other one had a standard 5 volt regulator and it was the diode that protects against reverse voltage that gave its life in a valiant and also successful attempt to save the others. After replacing its dead body and 2 capacitors next to it just for good measure, it works fine as well.

If you're not in a hurry, I plan to order the service manual for the RV-2 since Jill had a strange problem with hers. I think she's returning it, but I figured it would be good to have it on hand....

Grace and peace,

Steve


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phostenix
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USA
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  05:41:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sunburst,

Is your DC-3 MIJ or MIT?

I just noticed in the pedal info section on the bossarea home page that the DC-3 says:

Labels

Blue - Made In Japan
Green - Made In Japan
Red - Made In Japan

The DC-3 was sold from March 1988 to August 1993.

Is it possible that production of the DC-3 stayed in Japan until August of 1993?

Interesting.

Grace and peace,

Steve
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bossarea
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  11:49:19  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The stuff in the CE-2 is some sort of foam that someone glued in. Possibly because the battery rattled or something. I should try to remove it but I was afraid it would leave a mess of glue so it's there for the time being.

It's interesting to see how so many pedals have a chip in the paint just to the left of the thumb screw. I guess that's where the lid touches down. The size of the chip is probably an indication of how much the pedal has been used.

I think it's possible that the DC-3 production stayed in Japan for the lifetime of the pedal. I've never seen any with a Taiwan label on them and they usually show up sooner or later if they exist. The DC-3 with a red label has only been observed once so I should really see another one before it can be confirmed. It was a Digital Space D on Ebay about 3 years ago. It was so unusual that I saved the pictures.
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visserman
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  12:59:52  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting to see Bossarea that out of the 22 pedals you posted here you do have a mix of pedals stamped with the Sans Serif and Serif type.

I have about 10 pedals with the paperstamped serial number, but none of them has the Sans Serif style....................

What about this theory: different lettertypes for different locations where pedals were exported to. Just a guess................
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Sunburst
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Posted - 01/06/2006 :  13:21:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My DC-3 is made in Japan. It is interesting that some pedals that came into production after the move to Taiwan still seems to be made in japan. And some pedals like the DC-3 never shifted production to Taiwan.

Edited by - Sunburst on 01/06/2006 13:48:28
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lightburst
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Germany
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Posted - 01/08/2006 :  12:04:49  Show Profile  Visit lightburst's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
I don't have a schematic for the RV-2, but there is a possiblilty that it has a voltage/current regulating transistor in it that will give its life to save the others when over-voltaged. Boss uses that in some of their pedals. If you are inclined to work on it, it would be worth checking before you gut it.


Thanks again Phostenix but my RV-2 was destroid. I checked everything and finally I had to accept it was dead
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boss freak
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USA
663 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2006 :  17:08:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I think it's possible that the DC-3 production stayed in Japan for the lifetime of the pedal. I've never seen any with a Taiwan label on them and they usually show up sooner or later if they exist. The DC-3 with a red label has only been observed once so I should really see another one before it can be confirmed. It was a Digital Space D on Ebay about 3 years ago. It was so unusual that I saved the pictures.



Both my Digital Space D and my Digital Dimension have blue MIJ labels. I think I've seen the red label version on eBay some time ago.
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Sunburst
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Posted - 01/08/2006 :  17:54:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both my DC-3 "Digital Dimension" have blue labels. I have never seen a red label DC-3. Perhaps someone who owns a 90īs unit with the new serial will have a red label.
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bossarea
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Posted - 01/08/2006 :  18:30:52  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Now that I look at it again I think it might be a back plate from a PSM-5 that's found its way to a DC-3. Normally I insist on seeing two ex of a label before I add it to the page. Don't know why I didn't in this case but it's a good reminder.

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boss freak
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USA
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Posted - 01/08/2006 :  23:15:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're right. That does look like a PSM5 plate.
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visserman
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Posted - 01/09/2006 :  13:15:06  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How do we go about dating pedals which do have the White Paper Sticker?

There has been some discussion about this, but info is scattered and I am not really sure. Could anyone explain it? Could we post serial numbers here while others would comment on the date of production?

What about the dates from the Stamped serial numbers, do we know anything about them? I know, too many questions and some of them may be a little off topic as well...............
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phostenix
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USA
754 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2006 :  01:20:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The SE-50 I received today was made in Japan, and has a six digit S/N with an A at the front (A012443). So, maybe that is some sort of transitional S/N. Now that I think about it, since the first letter "Z" represents a "0" added to the unit number, they might have dropped the Z on some the first batches. ZA012443 & A012443 would be the same March 1989, unit 12443. Maybe this was something that happened with the MIJ pedals? Hmmm.

Grace and peace,

Steve

Edited by - phostenix on 01/10/2006 01:23:28
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phostenix
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USA
754 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2006 :  01:46:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So much for my new theory. After further review, the 2 letter S/N only has 5 numbers, not 6. There is a DC-3 on ebay now with a S/N of AA33384, so Sunburst's A950316 still puzzles me (as does my SE-50).

Grace and peace,

Steve
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phostenix
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USA
754 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2006 :  01:54:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Completed auction DC-3 has AA95450 S/N on a silver sticker with a blue label. That jives with the other DC-3 with the AA S/N. I have to think that the A950316 S/N on Sunburst's predates these.
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