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fabs
Silver Member

France
213 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2009 :  18:38:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EXTREMELY-RARE-VINTAGE-EARLY-RELEASE-1981-BOSS-CE-3_W0QQitemZ110461469499QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item19b804433b





Edited by - fabs on 11/29/2009 18:39:09

FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2009 :  18:54:58  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Knobs are a different colour to the general release ones ..they look like the knobs off a CH-1..plus the finish(could be a trick of the light in the picture) looks to be different also to what we expect a CE-3 to be,if this is original they obviously decided to change some stuff around before a general release,possibly a test to see if production standards in Taiwan would be as good as japanese production as '81 from taiwan is very early for MIT .......there is also supposed to be a early release BF-2 out there in a pinkish colour as well that are rare...

Edited by - FRANZONI on 11/29/2009 19:00:12
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fabs
Silver Member

France
213 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2009 :  19:04:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think there is an issue with the serial decoder, serial label mentions TAIWAN and no pedal has been were produced in Taiwan before 88. And white buttons indicate it was produced from 88 as Bossarea said : "from 1988 the CE-3 was shipped with white black knobs with white tops"
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FenderStrat86
Bronze Member

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2009 :  20:09:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry but ebay is a place where I don't take anyone's word for anything they are trying to sell. For all we know, this pedal could have been built from a collection of other pedals. One thing for sure....why would any Boss representative tell someone not to sell it and why would they even care what someone did with it? Sales pitches on ebay are like elementary school rumors.

Edited by - FenderStrat86 on 11/29/2009 20:11:18
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2009 :  21:35:44  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Too much trust is sometimes put into the serial number decoder.
If I could find some tie I would go in and make it decode these pedals correctly. 1988 is probably the right year for this one.
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Mesjoggah
Gold Member

Netherlands
595 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2009 :  22:28:32  Show Profile  Click to see Mesjoggah's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
we all now this is just an normal 1988 taiwan made CE-3, i don't care what the seller says, i think he doesn't know better himself.
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chrissydamage
Silver Member

United Kingdom
180 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2009 :  22:48:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah thats just an MIT version blatantly-

He even links to a page on this site that clearly describes when the dials were changed- could probably do with checking his own references
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FenderStrat86
Bronze Member

USA
79 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2009 :  06:30:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mesjoggah

we all now this is just an normal 1988 taiwan made CE-3, i don't care what the seller says, i think he doesn't know better himself.


Was Boss pedals being made in Taiwan back in '88? I thought they only started making them in Taiwan starting sometime in the '90s.


Edited by - FenderStrat86 on 11/30/2009 06:30:44
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2009 :  13:07:34  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Anybody know anyone in Boss UK that could verify his story..?...personally i don't think anyone would make a story like that up it's too easy to be caught out,i reckon it's an honest mistake and he did bring it to the NEC show and the guy from Boss got the year wrong,maybe someone should drop him a line to point out the mistake...an 81 MIT would really be a holy grail for any of you collectors,personally i got my CE-2 MIJ a few years ago and between that and my CH-1 and BF-2 i have those bases pretty much covered and am happy with my chorus/modulation pedal needs....

i also think you should listen to Bossarea..we have seen some oddball pedals on the forum from time to time that didn't corospond with any of the records from Boss archives or the serial decoder...
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fabs
Silver Member

France
213 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2009 :  13:46:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I sent him a message yesterday explaining his error, no answer yet
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2009 :  18:20:34  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FenderStrat86

Was Boss pedals being made in Taiwan back in '88? I thought they only started making them in Taiwan starting sometime in the '90s.


The Boss book states that the move to Taiwan started December 1986 so it is possible that production started in Taiwan earlier than 1988. We know with certainty that the new serial number system started March 1989 and a that the Taiwan production started some time before that.
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The_Doc
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United Kingdom
509 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2009 :  19:25:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another possibility is that the Boss guys at the NEC show simply didn't know and guessed. There are a couple of people in the trade that I know, that could easily have found themselves on a Boss stand reprsenting the company at an event like that and would probably have had an educated guess, but their focus is on a good knowledge & understanding of the current product range - not the older stuff.

It will be interesting to read the seller's reply to fabs' message.
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Mesjoggah
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Netherlands
595 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2009 :  21:04:54  Show Profile  Click to see Mesjoggah's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The_Doc

Another possibility is that the Boss guys at the NEC show simply didn't know and guessed. There are a couple of people in the trade that I know, that could easily have found themselves on a Boss stand reprsenting the company at an event like that and would probably have had an educated guess, but their focus is on a good knowledge & understanding of the current product range - not the older stuff.

It will be interesting to read the seller's reply to fabs' message.



I agree, it depends on your approach, if you go to the guys and say: hey here's my CE-3, i looked up the serial number on Bossarea.com and according to that it's a 1981 made pedal, those guys not knowing anything about the serials and stuff about older pedals like we do, took a look and saw it was a genuine Boss pedal, give it back to the guy and say well: if the serial decoder says it's 1981 it must have been an early one. They give the pedal back and the guy leaves, he just heard what he wanted to hear from a Boss guy.
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fabs
Silver Member

France
213 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2009 :  09:28:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
or he invented the whole story, taking advantage of the serial decoder issue to make more money with a cheap pedal

Bidding has ended, no buyers and no answer either
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fabs
Silver Member

France
213 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2009 :  14:40:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
relisted

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110466460113
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2009 :  15:42:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lower price now? But it's still full of misinformation about an "early release" - I think he took the music store employee's out-loud musing/surmising as gospel.

any date-codeable components in a CE-3?
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