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relinquish69
Copper Member
Singapore
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 Posted - 10/31/2006 : 06:37:37
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I must say that I'm a very fortunate individual as I've managed to get my hands on so many old DS-1s. the best part is, I could run tests between all of them.
I've recently purchased a MIJ DS-1. I was disappointed when I opened it up. it has the same PCB as the early MIT DS-1 that I used to have. to think I sold it for $75sgd when I bought the MIJ DS-1 for $180sgd. thats like friggin less than half the price for the exact same thing!
%##!&*#%!! I shouldnt have sold it. sometimes I really think that I'm a very anal Boss Pedal collector -_-" .
early black label MIT Boss DS-1 VS late MIJ Boss DS-1. I've mentioned that the both of them have subtle differences. I dont think that many people bought my story. this time, I have prove  .
not all MIT Boss DS-1s are crap. thats a very stereotypical statement. the early black label MIT Boss DS-1s have exactly the same PCB as the late MIJ Boss DS-1.
test subjects are:
- produced in September 1986 MIJ Boss DS-1
- produced in October 1993 MIT Boss DS-1
both of them are using the (ET-28F) PCB.
I wouldnt compare my produced November 1979 MIJ Boss DS-1 as it is using a different board (ET-28C).
Japan left Taiwan right.
serial number
 
backplate
 
full board
 
same chips no?
 
ET5205-510B
 
052-286 ( whatever that means haha )
 
2291032606 for Japan & 2291032607 for Taiwan
thats like the only difference there is.
I've done A/B tests between the 2 DS-1s and my silver screw DS-1. the difference is either subtle or there is no difference at all. seriously, you can only hear a difference if you have ultra sensitive ears.
damn, if only I could buy back that DS-1. it would be perfect for modding =(.
anyway, I hope that by posting this, you guys would change your opinion about MIT pedals. not all of them are inferior to their Japan counterparts. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2006 : 07:52:45
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I also have a mid period MIJ DS-1 (1982) and a MIT 1994 DS-1, they have identical boards and op-amps and sounds about exactly the same.
I also have a 2004 MIT DS-1 and that one sounds different, not dramatically but a little brighter and thinner with less bottom end.
I will not say that the newer MITs sound bad, but not as good as the older ones.
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2006 : 12:05:23
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I'm not surprised by your findings. In the test where I compared 5 DS-1s with 3 different opamps, the sound difference was tiny. In a mix I wouldn't be able to hear the difference between any of them.
I bought another MIJ DS-1 last week (just because it was dirt cheap) and as expected it sounds just like the rest of the lot. |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2006 : 13:39:25
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| yup im not surprised either. to tell you the truth, i think most pedals that are split by MIT and MIJ are pretty similar sounding. i think the MIJ just get more money since they are more collectable. |
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tomwest
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/31/2006 : 14:06:47
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| People tend to get drawn in by the sellers caliming theyre 'really smooth sounding electronics unlike todays transistor sounding ones' etc etc. The only reason I'm buying a Japanese one over a Taiwanese one is because it's only $50 delivered. |
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Sunburst
Silver Member
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Posted - 11/01/2006 : 12:19:42
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I have to agree with Goran after playing both MIJ and MIT versions. I believe there is a difference and the differences I heard matches what Goran found.
Its the op-amp the fuzz is all about, not MIJ vs MIT.
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2006 : 13:42:42
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i do agree that in some pedals there is a difference, but what im saying is that i think that the difference is blown way out of proportion. and the difference isnt necessarily between MIJ and MIT. ive heard three MIT DS-1s all sound different.
also some people might be biassed and looking for differences. if someone knows that one pedal is MIJ and one is MIT. they might be already fooled into thinking MIJ sounds better.  |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
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Posted - 11/02/2006 : 10:40:38
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Above I don�t say that MIJ always sounds better than MIT regarding DS-1, I say that the older op-amp sounds better (in my ears).
So if you want good old MIJ sounding DS-1 you get it by buying a MIT pre circa 1995, at a lower price.
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