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Joske Turbo
Silver Member
Belgium
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 Posted - 08/31/2009 : 20:23:55
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Hi forum
I like to record some tracks when I'm bored at home. There not good but I just enjoy recording. I've got acoustic, electric and bass guitar but no thing to record the drums. Which Boss Dr Rhythm do you guys think is the best suitable for this?
 Joske
PS: A reasonable price would be appreciated. |
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Joske Turbo
Silver Member
Belgium
412 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 20:25:40
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WOOHOO!!      
SILVER!!
JOSKE "SILVER MEMBER" TURRRRRRBO! |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 21:56:43
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Yay! 
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nathanscribe
Silver Member
United Kingdom
376 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 23:30:16
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A couple of friends use the DR-880. Never touched one myself, but they say it's very flexible, and pretty straightforward to use. Sounds OK too, but it depends what you're after.
Only Dr Rhythm I've ever had is the 55... a bit behind the times, I think. My 'newest' drum machine dates from 1984. |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 04:23:51
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Hey there -
Boss Dr Rhythms are a complete pig to program IMO, but use an external midi sequencer and its much easier to generate drum tracks.....
Do you have a mixing desk of any description? what sort of music do you play? what are you using to record? |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 09:01:20
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Whoohoo, congrats on your silver status!  
What will you be recording to? If you're considering the purchase of something like a BR-Microsoft or BR-600, you will get a built-in drum machine (They're not very good though).
Boss drum machines can be programmed in two ways, quick edit and step recording. I like quick edit but all you do is put together pre-programmed patterns so it's not very flexible. Step programming is a bitch but you can get the pattern exactly the way you want it. If you just want a quick'n'dirty drum machine, how about picking up a used DR-3. I think it only has the quick edit mode which should simplify things. Haven't heard it so I can't say anything about how it sounds.
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
756 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 09:26:48
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Congrats on the silver status!
Are you specifically looking at only Boss drum machines? There are a few cheap and ok drum machines out there if you don't *need* it to be Boss.
I used to own a Yamaha RY-30 which was an excellent drum machine... they'd all be a bit old by now (the pads on your average RY-30 would probably be a bit stuffed) Check out the Alesis SR-16, it's cheap and has been around for ever (so it can't be totally awefull?). Zoom also make some cheap Drum machines. I recently sold my SB-246 which is basically a hip-hop version of the RT-234. It was a good little unit for the price and was ultra portable as you can use it on batteries for a long time before they flatten. I sold my drum machine because I just use computer based sequencers and loops now...
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 09/01/2009 : 13:59:51
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Originally posted by Joske Turbo
WOOHOO!!
SILVER!!
JOSKE "SILVER MEMBER" TURRRRRRBO!
Hi Joske Turbo
CONGRATULATIONS |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 16:43:36
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| congrats on the silver |
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Joske Turbo
Silver Member
Belgium
412 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 17:31:01
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Originally posted by chrissydamage
Hey there -
Boss Dr Rhythms are a complete pig to program IMO, but use an external midi sequencer and its much easier to generate drum tracks.....
Do you have a mixing desk of any description? what sort of music do you play? what are you using to record?
Hi chrissydamage
Thanks for the reply. I have no mixing desk. The sort of music I play is mostly classic rock, blues rock and rock ballads (on acoustic). I record with the line input of my computer. And thanks to natthu; I will check out the other brands, because it doens't need to be boss.
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 19:55:20
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Hello again Joske Turbo (congrats on silver status by the way, gosh where are my manners.....)
I think I know excactly what you need.
Firstly try this out:
http://www.rebirthmuseum.com/index.htm
Rebirth is now freeware, It probably won't sound any good for what you want probably as its too synthetic and dance oriented; but just see if you can get to grips with the interface - its a virtual roland 909 and a 808 (and 2 303's, but you probably wont like them at all). Its extremely easy to use just like the original machines, no doubt you can knock up a rhythm/entire song in minutes.
If you like that style of drum machine, and find it easy to program then go out and buy one of these:
http://www.synthmania.com/es-1.htm
It works exactly the same, programming beats and whole songs is easy as riding a bike, plus being a sampler you can sample your own kits and drum sounds and make it sound exactly how you want, you can even lift drum/cymbal sounds and even whole loops from your favourite albums/songs or just download them off the net etc and tailor it to suit your music perfectly.
Oh yes and it has audio inputs too so you can in theory plug your guitar in and gate it accordingly with the same onboard sequencer.
(there is an ER-1 too but that is totally dance-music orientated, no good for what you want, I have one of these but I am mainly Schranz/hardtechno orientated so its great for me....)
All these piddly little drum machines aimed at guitarists suck major balls IMO, I too had a Yamaha RY-30 briefly and backed it after a day, I just could not get on with it. The onboard sequencers on all these things boss dr/yamaha/lesser roland tr's are so fiddly, step editing sucks, realtime editing sucks, the sounds all suck- using the sequencer on board is like trying to play a drum kit through a letterbox and you will probably end up launching it out the nearest window before too long.
I was going to get an es-1 myself until I got a G.A.S. attack and ended up buying 15u worth of various Akai samplers, a big desk and some Turbocharged Atari STEs to trigger them
Sorry about the essays, I must learn to write more concisely ;) |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2009 : 03:32:49
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| <<correction, actually I never had the RY-30, it was actually the RY-8 I had, my mistake.... whatever it was it sucked anyway, thats one MIJ that should SIJ....>> |
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
756 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2009 : 09:25:21
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Originally posted by chrissydamage
<<correction, actually I never had the RY-30, it was actually the RY-8 I had, my mistake.... whatever it was it sucked anyway, thats one MIJ that should SIJ....>>
That's some top shelf premium A-grade gear-hate you've got happening there!  ... although I must agree with your very eloquently expressed analogy that it's like playing a drum kit through a letter box... which leaves you with 3 options: 1) no drums, 2) deal with an actual drummer (no thanks) or 3) Software.
Software based stuff is much easier to get along with now-a-days than a box with temperamental pads and a tiny screen (or a drummer). You have a lot more sound editing options with software aswell. However, a drum machine is a lot easier to carry around than your average desktop computer (which is what I had back in the days when I used drum machines a lot).
I find the easiest thing to do now is to just let my guitarist worry about drums/loops. Then I can just sit back, relax and enjoy the insuing chaos (which is inevitable whenever he introduces technology to our songs!).
* What's the difference between a drummer and a drum machine?... You only have to punch the information into the drum machine once...
(only joking... I don't really hate drummers) |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2009 : 13:14:07
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Lol yeah I love to hate some gear definately 
I just remember paying about �300 new for that RY-8 back in the day, took it back home and was absolutely gutted when I started playing it - same with the DR-5 - they all just remind me of those awful 80's general midi keyboards wih the built in backing tracks, they are not really 'gear' per se, to me they seem more like toys or novelty items than professional musical instruments......just my opinion....
I think the 4th option is definately a sampler, the ES-1 is perfect as its very easy to use and you can use it stand alone-
as easy to use as any software I've ever used, plus would sound pretty good at 32KHz. Plus the flashing light per dollar spent ratio is very high as well (which lets face it; is extremely satisfying on any new purchase regardless of sound quality)
Software is great these daya but latency and lag on most PC's is terrible IMO, using the same machine for simultaneously recording and drum sound playback could certainly cause problems on an older machine....
Probably better than the latency of the average drummer though lol
*How do you get a drummer to play an accelerando?
Ask him to play in 4/4 at a steady 120 bpm
*How can you tell a drummer's at the door?
The knocking speeds up
Sorry drummers, couldn't resist ;) |
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
756 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2009 : 16:22:40
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Using a keyboard as a MIDI controller to trigger drum samples works pretty well too. If you don't time snap the MIDI triggers it sounds quite realistic (with good samples of course)...
Another drummer joke (I sincerely apologise to any drummers out there for this joke):
Q- What's got three legs and an arsehole* on its back?
A- A drummer's stool.
*I believe Americans spell this as "asshole", which in my book would suggest a hole in which a donkey might live, not part of the human anatomy (or a person so objectionable that comparing them to said part of anatomy would be warranted).
Slightly off topic there, sorry.
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2009 : 18:50:43
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Ahhhhhhhhh so many drummers; so little time (sniggers)
Used to be a drummer myself actually.........
Think thats actually the true definition of a gentleman-
Someone who can play the drums; but doesn't.
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