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archimedes
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Posted - 11/17/2009 :  23:31:58  Show Profile  Visit archimedes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am pretty happy with the sound of my much mucked about (actually it's pretty much back to normal apart from an NE5532 amp and asycn clipping at D10 and D11) OD-3 at the moment except that I still find the sound a little hard and I remember on that chart of overdrive pedals that the SD-1 is described as softer. Looking at the OD-1 and SD-1 schematics that seem to knock around it looks like they use (or used at some time) 1S1588 and 1S2473 diodes respectively. Can anyone tell me if putting these in at D10 and D11 on the OD-3 in place of the 1N914s (I am running three in async mode) there is likely to soften the sound at all or would they be just the same?

Thanks

David

cctsim
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  21:53:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1S1588 is a fast switching low capacitance diode. They are more likely to give you a sharper sounding flavour. If you want smoothness try the 1N400x series. They have higher capacitance and will sound smoother.

I couldn't find any info on 1S2473 during a quick search.

You could always add a capacitor (in pF range) in parallel with the diodes to smooth things further.
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archimedes
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  23:56:33  Show Profile  Visit archimedes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that
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hot tubes
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Posted - 11/19/2009 :  07:22:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just for fun , i would also try a 1n34a germ. + an LED in series
this is a warmer / softer sounding clipper mix , maybe what your after.
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archimedes
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Posted - 11/19/2009 :  12:15:45  Show Profile  Visit archimedes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks

I have tried a few combinations before but not I think at D10 and D11 which is probably where it is going to make most difference

Edited by - archimedes on 11/19/2009 12:17:11
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archimedes
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Posted - 11/22/2009 :  23:00:39  Show Profile  Visit archimedes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well I have been playing around with a few combinations today and I think what seems to be coming out on top for me at the moment is a pair of LEDs in sync mode. The 4001s were definitely smoother and also a little darker than the 4148s which is nice but I think the LEDs sound a little more natural. I did try the germaniums with the LEDs but they are a little too soft more me and seem to lose attack definition. No doubt the process of trying the many possible variations will go on for a bit!

Thanks again

David
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archimedes
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Posted - 11/26/2009 :  13:07:26  Show Profile  Visit archimedes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hot tubes

just for fun , i would also try a 1n34a germ. + an LED in series
this is a warmer / softer sounding clipper mix , maybe what your after.



Thanks Hot Tubes

With the combination that you are suggesting which component would come first (if one thinks about the diode arrow indication as the direction as it were), the germanium or the LED? Does it make a difference?

Also are you suggesting have this combination in both directions?


Edited by - archimedes on 11/26/2009 13:08:46
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hot tubes
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Posted - 11/26/2009 :  20:08:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i like the 1n34a first then the LED ..
and yes , in both keeps the clipping
the same on both ends etc etc .

Edited by - hot tubes on 11/26/2009 20:09:00
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Laurie
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Posted - 11/26/2009 :  20:33:40  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by archimedes
which component would come first (if one thinks about the diode arrow indication as the direction as it were), the germanium or the LED? Does it make a difference?

It will make no (zero) difference.
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archimedes
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Posted - 11/28/2009 :  23:45:16  Show Profile  Visit archimedes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well just to finish off this one...

I am very happy with the sound of the 1N34a + LED combination at D10 and D11 in the OD-3 so thanks for all your help guys.

To my ears it's a thicker, smoother and more natural sound than the 1N914s and 1N4001s. It also seems to have affected the tone a little too, making it a touch fatter and darker with less edgy highs which is all good stuff in my book.

I think it is now time to stop being mean to my OD-3 and get on with some playing!

David
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