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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
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 Posted - 03/13/2007 : 11:02:58
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For years I have more or less neglected CH-1, the analog one, and always thought it was inferior to the classics CE-2, CE-3. And studying topics on this forum more than one of you agree on this�.
And mentioning CH-1 in the same sentence as DC-2/3 would be horrifying�.
The colour of CH-1 is also ugly�.
But during the last couple of month I have used it more and more, learning to dial in the sweet spots (and there are more than one). I have found it to sound very good with strats and teles, subtly used (the effect level is the key here), real awesome. It can bring a clarity to single coils that I like a lot, something a bit like EH-2 and DC-3 also can do.
As I�m a (stupid?) collector and have more than once said that the older the better, I have to admit that for more than a few applications CH-1 sounds a lot better than CE-2. And the same goes to some extent for DC-2/3 when they are used In mono.
I have never tried the digital version of CH-1.
Anyone more than me that has re-evaluated CH-1????
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 12:39:30
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| i agree. the CH-1 is awesome. i think Boss has NO bad chorus pedal. i used to have the problem of listening with my eyes and just said CE-2 wins but ive been giving others a chance too lately. i have the CE-5 in my setup right now |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 13:06:54
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Originally posted by StratoSphere
i agree. the CH-1 is awesome. i think Boss has NO bad chorus pedal. i used to have the problem of listening with my eyes and just said CE-2 wins but I've been giving others a chance too lately. i have the CE-5 in my setup right now
Hi StratoSphere, Goran & Guys
Strato, did you know that there are two different versions of the CE-5?
An older BBD one, & a digital one (CE-5A)
Do you know which one you have?
I recently managed to get the earlier BBD version.
I have inside pics of my older BBD type.
This difference may influence your opinion of the CE-5.
And I don't have a CE-5A to compare it with.
Taken from the Compact Pedal section:
Version differences
There are 2 versions of the CE-5 where the second version is denoted CE-5A. This is printed on the PCB so it is easy to figure out which version you have. The first version is closely related to the CE-2 and CE-3. It uses the 1024 stage Panasonic BBD MN3007 and its associated clock driver 3101. The CE-5A is completely restructured. It uses surface mounted components and the BBD has been replaced with a digital design. All CE-5s made before October 2001 should have the old circuit. Use the serial number decoder on the 'Other Products' menu to find out when your CE-5 was made.
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 22:55:42
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hey Dr Bob. thanks for reminding me.i always read about that and think to myself, "ill check it in a minute" knowing damn right i wont even although my pedals are in the next room about 9 steps away.
DH27822 Pink label, made in March 95. i spotted the MN 3007. taiwan obviously, the only marking i see reads "CE-5 PCB" |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2007 : 06:57:17
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Originally posted by StratoSphere
hey Dr Bob. thanks for reminding me.i always read about that and think to myself, "ill check it in a minute" knowing damn right i wont even although my pedals are in the next room about 9 steps away.
DH27822 Pink label, made in March 95. i spotted the MN 3007. taiwan obviously, the only marking i see reads "CE-5 PCB"
Hi StratoSphere & Guys
Looks like you have the earlier non digital one. 
Yours is newer than mine, if my memory serves me correctly.
(I'll check later)
It would be nice, to have someone do a comparison, of the two different CE-5's.
Maybe this accounts, for the marked difference in opinion, about the CE-5?
Regards Dr. Bob
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lost_in_sound
Silver Member
United Kingdom
150 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2007 : 10:27:44
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Originally posted by Goran
For years I have more or less neglected CH-1, the analog one, and always thought it was inferior to the classics CE-2, CE-3. And studying topics on this forum more than one of you agree on this�.
And mentioning CH-1 in the same sentence as DC-2/3 would be horrifying�.
The colour of CH-1 is also ugly�.
But during the last couple of month I have used it more and more, learning to dial in the sweet spots (and there are more than one). I have found it to sound very good with strats and teles, subtly used (the effect level is the key here), real awesome. It can bring a clarity to single coils that I like a lot, something a bit like EH-2 and DC-3 also can do.
As I�m a (stupid?) collector and have more than once said that the older the better, I have to admit that for more than a few applications CH-1 sounds a lot better than CE-2. And the same goes to some extent for DC-2/3 when they are used In mono.
I have never tried the digital version of CH-1.
Anyone more than me that has re-evaluated CH-1????
i have a digital CH-1. i too think it is nice pedal, and i see what mean about it sounding good with single coils - really crisp and deep |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2007 : 20:21:28
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anyone who has read my previous posts on the most underrated or disliked pedals will know i have championed my analog ch1 which i use at the end of my chain to turn my signal to stereo...imho to get the best results it needs to be heard in stereo,what i also like about my ch1 is i can mix my phaser or flanger in as well to get some great swirly leslie type sounds without the sound getting too messy........ |
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midibuddy
Silver Member
Ecuador
285 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2007 : 06:58:57
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| I'm not a big fan of chorus, but for me, my digital CH-1 gets the job done very well.. of course it's not a CE-2, but it works... I can't get the creamy sound of The Police but it'll manage to get a somewhat close sound... it works, and it's a BOSS, when I find a CE-2 I'll get it.. in the meanwhile this one's good |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2007 : 22:50:56
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hey midibuddy...how are you bro...?? glad to see your still gigging away,our band broke up.... but i think with a slight change of personnel we will be back on the road soon... ...with regards to your comment of getting a a police type sound with the ch1 i bought a bf2 last year and if you put it on a chorus type sound and run it into the ch1(split into stereo) with a bit of delay i think you might be suprised....and to quote kent brockman....my two cents is the bf2 is also a underrated pedal...... |
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 03/17/2007 : 17:12:23
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Originally posted by midibuddy
I'm not a big fan of chorus, but for me, my digital CH-1 gets the job done very well.. of course it's not a CE-2, but it works... I can't get the creamy sound of The Police but it'll manage to get a somewhat close sound... it works, and it's a BOSS, when I find a CE-2 I'll get it.. in the meanwhile this one's good
If you want that Policesound do use the CH-1 in combination of delay and reverb. If you have other choruspedals do try them as well, yes using two or even up to three choruses [ as Dr. Bob would gladly describe for you].
The Policesound is a mixture of a few things, but any chorus could do it if you mix it with some other ingredients.
Oh and something like an EH-2 will help you a lot as well. |
Edited by - visserman on 03/17/2007 17:13:29 |
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2007 : 17:23:22
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Originally posted by Goran
For years I have more or less neglected CH-1, the analog one, and always thought it was inferior to the classics CE-2, CE-3. And studying topics on this forum more than one of you agree on this�.
And mentioning CH-1 in the same sentence as DC-2/3 would be horrifying�.
The colour of CH-1 is also ugly�.
But during the last couple of month I have used it more and more, learning to dial in the sweet spots (and there are more than one). I have found it to sound very good with strats and teles, subtly used (the effect level is the key here), real awesome. It can bring a clarity to single coils that I like a lot, something a bit like EH-2 and DC-3 also can do.
As I�m a (stupid?) collector and have more than once said that the older the better, I have to admit that for more than a few applications CH-1 sounds a lot better than CE-2. And the same goes to some extent for DC-2/3 when they are used In mono.
I have never tried the digital version of CH-1.
Anyone more than me that has re-evaluated CH-1????
Goran what you have "discovered" probably goes for any pedal. One does need to spend time and experiment with it to see what it can really do.
Personally I have always liked the CH-1. Once I heard it it reminded me of the Peavy StereoChorus amp. The chorussound of this amp is very different from the CE1, or CE2 or any of the older type of choruses. Different in the sense that it is much cleaner and criper, and this is what the CH-1 is also very good at. [The DC pedals sit right in between the chorussound of the CE2 and the CH1]
CH-1 digital and analogue very different? A little, but if you only have one you are not going to miss the other one. Same as with the Japan/Taiwan comparision really.
The Fact that Dr. Bob has found another version of the CE-5 does not surprise me, as time goes on we may discover a lot more here, and there will be quite a few more pedals which do have different IC's or other componants, but really, all of this will not make that much impact on their overal performance. Still the sound will be fine from any of those pedals. |
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midibuddy
Silver Member
Ecuador
285 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2007 : 17:10:40
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hi there franzoni!
how are you?
i'm sorry your band split up... once you play live, you want to do it at least weekly!
Our band is kinda slow these days, we're getting like 1 gig a month, which is quite less than we were used to... I think that our singer/manager is a little tired from this, he also has a daytime job and a girlfriend to take for on the weekends, so I understand him... In fact, I'm looking for a cheap BF-2, unfortunately I let a $ 50 BF-2 slip away from my hands, I have found another one but they're asking $ 70 for it, I think it's a bit expensive..
I used the PH-2 into the CH-1 for The Police's "So Lonely" and it sounded decent, but it wasn't the exact sound, although I liked very much the sound I got... |
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CH-1, begining to really like it....
