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visserman
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 Posted - 06/04/2008 : 12:54:13
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Just like DOD did with the Grunge one.
Perhaps even better to bring a SCREAMO pedal out
Bring the EMO term up because a programme I heard last night about the style, or name really. It is kind of funny, and even teenagers do not the name.
Maybe all Bosspedals are EMO pedals anyway.............who knows?? I tend to use them to add some EMO to my songs and music!!!
 or should it be? .............depending how many coins you have in your wallet I guess!! |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
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Posted - 06/04/2008 : 15:50:55
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| Perhaps you should be asking if DOD should make an EMO pedal since they made the Grunge pedal, and they seem to be all about making pedals for different era's and stuff, it wouldn't surprise me if they did it. It would surprise me if Boss did such a thing, cause its a bit too gimmicky for Boss... |
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 06/04/2008 : 16:11:48
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gimmicky name? how about the metal core (that is a genre) :P
dunlop already has the emo pedal, it's called the crybaby.
sadly enough, i used to enjoy old emo-core (we called it that back then) circa 1987-1999. in 2000 or so it started to bite and they dropped the core off the name. emo-core from ~1990-1994 was super heavy and screamy (it came out of the hardcore scene).
that was before boys dressed like girls.
some of the best emo bashing i've seen:
http://www.yourscenesucks.com/ |
Edited by - zentropa on 06/04/2008 16:12:29 |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/04/2008 : 18:40:50
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Since I'm an old fart I have to admit that I had to google for EMO to find out what you were talking about. In case others are as out of touch as me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo  |
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
119 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2008 : 18:43:39
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| i wish someone would bring out a glitchy pedal to screw my guitar sounds up with. |
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 06/04/2008 : 22:26:07
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| I'd like to see an emo pedal for vocals... so you can sound like Guy Picciotto (Rites of Spring), Blake Schwarzenbach (Jawbreaker, pre-throat surgery), or Shelby Cinca (Frodus), without ever actually risking the need for throat surgery.... |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
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Posted - 06/04/2008 : 23:03:47
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Originally posted by zentropa
gimmicky name? how about the metal core (that is a genre) :P
dunlop already has the emo pedal, it's called the crybaby.
sadly enough, i used to enjoy old emo-core (we called it that back then) circa 1987-1999. in 2000 or so it started to bite and they dropped the core off the name. emo-core from ~1990-1994 was super heavy and screamy (it came out of the hardcore scene).
that was before boys dressed like girls.
some of the best emo bashing i've seen:
http://www.yourscenesucks.com/
Good point, but that pedal was just released a year or 2 after the metal core genre mainstream wave peaked, or at least to me it seems like it did. I mean I remember the when metal core was just hardcore, and then probably around the same time they dropped to core off of emo-core, its seems they changed the hard in hardcore to metal  ...So perhaps Boss will release their Emo pedal in a couple years when the mainstream Emo wave has crested...
As far as boys dressing like girls...that has been happening in music since before most of the emo kids were born...Little Richard, Elton John for example, and in certain era's/phases Prince, Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Steven Tyler have all worn things that you know they didn't find in the mens department at the local department store...unfortnately that is not something that cannot be fully blamed on Emo.... |
Edited by - jack on 06/04/2008 23:10:56 |
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2008 : 02:38:15
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PST:
not sure if singin like guy will require surgery, but i agree about the others.
i was cursed with a large vocal range (39 half steps), so i have to hit some big extremes in order to get that strained sound hehe. when i do "take on me" at karaoke it hits that point :P
jack:
i was shocked at what people started considering metal core. back when i was still sorta in a scene (before i was too old to be cool) i used to go to college w/ one of the guys from botch (who were the metal-core kings of the west coast back then). stuff like coalesce, converge, dillinger escape plan, cave in etc. come to mind from that era. back then hardcore bands were more chugga chugga (e.g. snapcase) and metal core bands were more sludgy w/ more metal riffing and often math-tastic with some polyrhythms.
thing is with emo, there really isn't a sound to associate with it, especially since there's been 4 generations of emo-core. my personal favorites were gen. 2 and gen. 3.
who do you try an emulate? just the well knowns? out of the well knowns?
gen. 1: rites of spring, embrace, one last wish, etc.
gen. 2: amber inn, still life, anasarca, etc.
gen. 2b (transition era): sidekick kato, gauge, sleepytime trio, etc.
gen. 3: mineral, braid, boys life, cap'n jazz, giants chair, promise ring, texas is the reason
gen. 3b (gen. 2 throwbacks, now known as screamo): closure, grade, saetia, neil perry, you and i, etc.
gen. 4: the poop that exists now thanks to the get up kids surviving when everyone else broke up.
gen. 4b (half wuss emo, half cheese mosh metal, i call it chemo): alexisonfire, fall of troy, and like bands that exist only because boysetsfire lasted for more than 3 years.
imo, emo-core's dying breath (when core left) was when hot water music lost their balls.
the only contemporary emo bands that i still dig on are cursive and the appleseed cast and hot cross if you count them as emo, but they'd probably punch me for calling em that. rainer maria's last album failed me, but i always dug kyle's tone.
there were some very good guitarists in the emo-core and crossover indie rock scene in the late 90's:
mike kinsella (ghosts & vodka, owen, american football, the owls)
the guitarists in colossal
the guy in very secretary
the guy in faraquet/medications
scott hobart (giants chair, he had the best tone from this era imo)
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2008 : 03:54:40
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Zentropa, I can't say I have actually listened much to any of the bands you mention, except perhaps Rites of Spring & Dillinger Escape Plan. I hate to say it, but I think the term EMO is the new GRUNGE. A lot of the so called grunge bands sounded nothing like one another, I think the same can be said for EMO. When I first heard the term EMO back in the early 90s, it usually meant some low-fi Sebaboh sounding stuff...then when I heard it again a few years back they had these punk and metal influenced rock bands with goth makeovers...It's all alternative rock to me though, and I wish it would have stayed like that but then you have all these critics and fans who for some reason feel the need to classify things to the most intricate detail like they are some sort of scientist just so they can have some sort of identity and association with something they see as their own. I can't say I didn't fall into myself in my younger days,"I like thrash metal.", because if I said metal at the time, many would think Bon Jovi because thats what most people associated with. Plus it was cool to say something that you liked something that most people never heard of or were familiar with....What the hell was I talking about? Where was I going here? Had an old man back in the day flashback and now I forgot what my point was....  |
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zentropa
Gold Member
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Posted - 06/05/2008 : 05:04:09
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hehe.
oh yah, i forgot to comment on the boys dressing like girls thing.
it used to be the bands/musicians that did that. now it's the fans :P
i don't mind labels as long as they mean something. when you are dealing with underground genres, especially ones that are subgenres, or subgenres of subgenres, it's often hard to anticipate what kind of sound a band will churn out and if it will fit your style of interest without getting more and more specific.
a genealogy example for a genre:
alternative rock
-indie rock
-math rock
-midwestern indie rock (louisville)
this to me says slint, june of 44, rodan, rex, etc.
alternative rock
-indie rock
-dc sound
this says jawbox, kerosene 454, fugazi, unrest, crownhate ruin, etc.
alternative rock
-punk rock
-hardcore
-emo-core
-2nd gen. emo-core throwback
if someone says they're in an "emo" band i probably won't give a rat's azz. if someone says they're in a 2nd gen throwback emo-core band my ears will perk up big time.
certain genres become dirty words. in 1992, metal was a dirty word. disco is a dirty word. emo is a dirty word. punk is a dirty word. people want to make sure they aren't lumped into stuff that might suck and i can't blame em.
if i were a motorhead fan and got lumped together with people diggin poison and trixter, i would be pissed too.
the one thing i can't stand is when people define themselves with a genre label that's already been used for decades but they mean something totally different. that wuss-emo alternating with cheese mosh metal bands are calling themselves prog now. wtf. geddy lee is rolling over in his grave and he isn't even dead yet.
they should make an old school indie rock pedal that sounds like it's been recorded by bob weston for $250 over 1 weekend :)
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Sixbladeknife
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Posted - 06/05/2008 : 11:05:16
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Emo's been going downhill for a while now and will soon go the way of hair metal, grunge, etc. Recently my 9 year old has been calling my 13 year old an "emo-poser" (and I dare say he is). Even at 9 he has the foresight to see that the jig is up and that it's becoming increasingly uncool to be classified as emo. Wonder what's next? Couldn't possibly be any worse than that shite.....or could it??  |
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zentropa
Gold Member
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Posted - 06/05/2008 : 16:25:10
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haha.
think metal.
we're entering the trixter, firehouse, etc. phase of emo. it's already become a joke, but a fashionable joke.
in metal progression i listen to the emo equivalents of sabbath, motorhead, and up through zeppelin.
when anything becomes an identity and fashion statement it usually sucks by then. metal, punk, grunge, goth, etc. all turned out that way. if hot topic knows about it, it sucks.
thing is, the thing that got me into emo-core (short for emotional hardcore) was lyrical content i could relate to but mainly... that the music was pretty badazz. one of my favorite bands from the genre had 4-5 songs in 11/8 time signature. lots of counterpoint, rhythm changes, etc. still with enough balls to say "i rock." all that has changed now and it's degenerated into power pop with "i love my girlfriend" lyrics and music that is about as exciting as your average weezer song.
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 06/05/2008 : 16:55:17
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Originally posted by zentropa
Lyrics and music that is about as exciting as your average weezer song.
"I've got my hashpipe"
Actually, what's up with emo kids being slow.
Last year this kid bought an old Zoom 505 from my brother, so he comes up to our house with his mom and she does the talking:
she: "well, do you like it? do you want to buy it?"
he: "uhu..."
she: "well, pay him the money for it"
he: "oh, yeah..." (digs up money from his pocket and gives it to my brother).
I couldn't help laughing my ass off when he shook down our driveway to their car, with his mom behind him pushing his back: "well go on, we haven't got all day you know" whilst he held the unit in one hand and the adaptor in the other. That was frelling hilarious |
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Sixbladeknife
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Posted - 06/06/2008 : 08:08:00
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Originally posted by zentropa
when anything becomes an identity and fashion statement it usually sucks by then. metal, punk, grunge, goth, etc. all turned out that way. if hot topic knows about it, it sucks.
Bingo!! |
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zentropa
Gold Member
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Posted - 06/06/2008 : 08:17:53
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couldn't help laughing my ass off when he shook down our driveway to their car, with his mom behind him pushing his back: "well go on, we haven't got all day you know" whilst he held the unit in one hand and the adaptor in the other.
and to think, a mere 6+ years ago he woulda been listening to marylin manson and playing dungeons & dragons in the basement instead of guitar. |
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Should Boss Bring Out an EMO Pedal.....???
