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MullyFX
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 Posted - 03/16/2010 : 19:21:05
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okay I took the Dominator back to the dealer and took a Diablo back home.... my what a difference....
the Dominator is a tone monster (the EQ section is the best I've ever seen on a pedal)
this one is a character monster (it can do slight drive, crunch, distortion AND fuzz - but it's a pedal you need to take your time with... only five knobs but they are quiet unusual)
I'm still planning to buy the Dominator again but for now I'm more happy with the Diablo (at least that's what I'm making myself believe cuz I'm not going back there again to switch pedals yet another time). It's more versatile and I can have all those characters in just one box.
Without posting soundclips or anything here's my sound comparison for those pedals
the Dominator is like a Marshall Shredmaster on Steroids - I find the Shredmaster to be more amp like but it's to limited tone wise.... it's always a bit too muffled in the top end and to boomy down low
the Diablo is like a Marshall Blues Breaker, Drive Master and a compressed fuzz on top. It sounds more like an amp than those Marshall stomps.
The tone controls on the Dominator are what I miss most about it.... so frickin versatile....
The breaking off trails however are still there even on the Diablo... but this one has a 9V/18V switch to double the headroom internally and the trails thing only occurs in the 18V mode.
maybe it's just the combination of my guitar and the 18V mode... the Dominator is 18V internally to begin with... so that could explain things. (both run of a 9V Battery or Power Adapter though)
cheers,
mully
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
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Posted - 03/16/2010 : 20:59:47
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okay I've had some hours of playtime now... and gotta say I really like it.
I miss the tone controls of the Dominator but the tone I'm getting is great - first time in quite a while that I banned my EQ from the board. It's just me the Diablo and the MicroBaby.... good stuff.
I also put the Diablo against my OD-1 and at a certain setting they were REALLY close. the Diablo had little more bass and treble though (just a tiny bit).
when I told my girlfriend to listen and how happy I'm with the sound right now she just said... give it a week and you'll be unhappy again, buying new stuff....
She may be right but at least I already know what I want - hehe
the Coca Comp from OKKO seems VERY tasty |
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kelmaur
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USA
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Posted - 03/16/2010 : 23:50:47
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MullyFX
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Germany
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kelmaur
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USA
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 03/17/2010 : 02:23:36
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
756 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2010 : 07:52:29
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These Okko pedals look pretty cool... Glad you've found something you're happy with Mully  |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2010 : 09:59:43
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Originally posted by natthu
These Okko pedals look pretty cool... Glad you've found something you're happy with Mully
THANKS 
yeah but I'm really thinking about getting another Dominator.... it was so heavy and jucy....  |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2010 : 10:08:47
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Originally posted by kelmaur
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Originally posted by MullyFX
http://www.themadape.com/SearchResults.asp?mfg=OKKO
$300!!!!!!!!
that's honestly quite cheap regarding that it's from germany
what do you think US boutique pedals cost around here.... ??
just for shits and giggles - here are the STREET prices for Fulltone products in germany
GT500 302 USD (remember that's not the suggested retail price which is even higher)
Clyde Deluxe Wah 412 USD
Robin Trower Overdrive 357 USD
and so on.... now the RTO for example is only 249 USD in the US... and thats not the street price but suggested retail price. |
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
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Posted - 03/17/2010 : 12:48:44
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Originally posted by MullyFX
that's honestly quite cheap regarding that it's from germany
I'd take a German built product over an American (or Australian) built product any day... Although, having said that, even high end stuff that comes out of China (Eventide) and Thailand (TC Electronics) is good quality nowadays. |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2010 : 13:07:57
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Originally posted by natthu
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Originally posted by MullyFX
that's honestly quite cheap regarding that it's from germany
I'd take a German built product over an American (or Australian) built product any day... Although, having said that, even high end stuff that comes out of China (Eventide) and Thailand (TC Electronics) is good quality nowadays.
the american pedals I had so far (Fulltone & VoodooLabs) were built really well to be honest. I found the Fulltone stuff to be excellent and the Voodoo Labs stuff was good enough. Also stuff I have from Antelope FX is REALLY well built - although the paint job is not the best... stylewise that is (they later changed that to the better and then stopped production completely)
but yeah the OKKO pedals seem to be well made, look SPECTACULAR and do sound exceptionally good.
The point I was trying to make however is that it's only €17 more expensive than round here when you guys have to import it & pay import taxes (or your dealer has to)
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natthu
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Australia
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Posted - 03/17/2010 : 13:33:57
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Originally posted by MullyFX
The point I was trying to make however is that it's only €17 more expensive than round here when you guys have to import it & pay import taxes (or your dealer has to)
I guess that works out nicely for Americans.... However, I'm betting that Okko won't make it to Australia anytime soon... or if they do the prices will be prohibitavely expensive (ie probably something like AUD 600 for a dominator). |
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
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Posted - 03/17/2010 : 13:41:39
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Originally posted by natthu
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Originally posted by MullyFX
The point I was trying to make however is that it's only €17 more expensive than round here when you guys have to import it & pay import taxes (or your dealer has to)
I guess that works out nicely for Americans.... However, I'm betting that Okko won't make it to Australia anytime soon... or if they do the prices will be prohibitavely expensive (ie probably something like AUD 600 for a dominator).
that all depends on the DISTROS - if one of you upsidedowners would step up and get a distro deal with OKKO I'm sure you could flood the market with (if not cheap than at least) decent priced boutique pedals (not saying that OKKOs are decently priced... I still think it's a bit expensive for some electronics and a cool paint job - but, we do pay for stuff like that so who can blame them) |
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natthu
Gold Member
Australia
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Posted - 03/18/2010 : 08:10:46
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Australia/New Zealand is also unfortunately a pretty small market. Boutique pedals would be difficult to shift in any great numbers here. It would probably only be an economically viable venture if you charged far too much per unit 
It looks like we (my GF and I) will be travelling to New York and London (and a few other places in Europe & Canada) in October this year. I am definitely going to take the opportunity to do some effects shopping.
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MullyFX
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Germany
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MullyFX
Gold Member
Germany
753 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2010 : 13:29:43
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on a side note.... I just received the Coca Comp and don't know if I love or hate it.
it's a very subtle thing....
it doesn't add any noise but due to the design (fixed threshold and the SING knob simply raises the input level) the existing noise will be amplified quite a bit.
It's also NOT an FX compressor.... it's really subtle but VERY classy sounding.... if noise wouldn't be amplified to this extend (but I guess that's just the limitation of physics) I'd be all over it.
to give you an idea... it's as quiet/loud as the CS-1 with volume on full and sustain on 9 o'clock on the bass setting. but the compression amount is way below that of the CS-1 at this setting.
so less compression same noise level.
of course the CS-1 is a noise monster when turned up but it's really only an FX compressor at anything above 10 o'clock on the sustain knob |
Edited by - MullyFX on 03/18/2010 13:31:00 |
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