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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
756 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  10:06:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone have experience with these?

I'd like to get one but not at the expense of (too much) sound quality. I tried to do some research on the web but couldn't find any useful info. I saw a guitarist use one last night and his rig sounded fine... unfortunately I didn't manage to spy what he was using

I've noticed that there is a range of prices from disturbingly cheap (ie $99, I assume these are rubbish) to as expensive as my guitar ($1400... probably overkill).

Is there a middle ground where I can justify the cost but also not make my guitar and bass sound horrible? Can you get models with extra transmitters to handle extra guitars?

FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  11:06:40  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Our singer is looking at getting the shure wireless mic from himself..when i was reading up on it i read an article about the bandwidth that these devices inhabit is starting to get crowded or squashed smaller as governments sell off frequencys to radio stations etc...or something along those lines...basically the thrust of the article as i read it,is the chances of crosstalk/interference in the future will be greater......on a side note if you do decide to go for it i think Samson make a system where you can buy extra jackplugs for multiple guitars to be connected to the reciever..they make a couple of different types for strat and les paul/tele type inputs with a receiver about the same size of a boss pedal that can go either on your amp or on a pedalboard they retail for about �150 here so whatever that works out in $ aus .....

Edited by - FRANZONI on 09/04/2009 11:07:42
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  12:21:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would never use anything than cords between my guitar and amp, I have tried Nady and other systems, but you loose the punch and tone a bit. Take a look at guitarists who earns enough money to use what they want, they seldom use wireless if they are known to have great tone.
Well, my opinion
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  13:46:43  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Goran

I would never use anything than cords between my guitar and amp, I have tried Nady and other systems, but you loose the punch and tone a bit. Take a look at guitarists who earns enough money to use what they want, they seldom use wireless if they are known to have great tone.
Well, my opinion


I would have to agree with this one
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  15:25:40  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi nathu & guys

I recently went out & helped one of my pro guitarist friends, with a limited budget, purchase a wireless system.
Because of his new line-up & gear, a wireless became a must.

I was basically there as the Tech advise guy.

We settled on a Diversity system from Legacy.

The LEGBR1 Guitar Wireless System RRP $349.99au
I/we managed to get them down to just a Bee's Willy under $299au.

http://www.legacymusic.com.au/products/index.cfm?action=view&id=246

We both played it for about 30 mins, on different systems, & it sounded fine to me, & comparable to system costing many $$$$ more.

He has used it on quite a few live gigs, & is very pleased with it.
Well I haven't heard any complaints so far.
He did mention that other muso's at his gigs, have been asking him about it.
I have considered buying one myself.

I am not affiliated in any way with Legacy or it's distributors.

Regards Dr. Bob
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silvertone6120
Gold Member

USA
609 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  15:34:03  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I used one for years on the road. I won't use one anymore because they do indeed affect your tone(for the record I used a Nady, then when it died I went with a Shure).

The main reason I don't/won't use one nowadays is the fact that I have a pedalboard at my feet, and I can't see the reasoning of running a cord from my board to the amp(along with power supply cord) plus running a cord from my board to a wireless receiver...when I'm standing right there at my board! I don't run around onstage like I used to so the "freedom" aspect is not really an issue either.
I'll just stick to my 35' Vox curly cord if it's all the same...
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thejay
Copper Member

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  18:09:19  Show Profile  Visit thejay's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I use X2 Wireless and sounds every bit as good as a cable. They have recently come down in price too...
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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
756 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  19:00:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by silvertone6120

I used one for years on the road. I won't use one anymore because they do indeed affect your tone(for the record I used a Nady, then when it died I went with a Shure).

The main reason I don't/won't use one nowadays is the fact that I have a pedalboard at my feet, and I can't see the reasoning of running a cord from my board to the amp(along with power supply cord) plus running a cord from my board to a wireless receiver...when I'm standing right there at my board! I don't run around onstage like I used to so the "freedom" aspect is not really an issue either.
I'll just stick to my 35' Vox curly cord if it's all the same...



I know a lot of you guys will hate this - I'm not a traditional guitarist, I'm not looking for great tone (although I can and do appreciate it). I use my guitar to create tones which are very un-guitar sounding. My set up when playing guitar is (more or less):

Telecaster -> Compressor -> EHX POG2 -> Eventide PitchFactor => Amps

The POG is usually set to organ like sounds and the PitchFactor makes the result even less guitar-like. The other guitarist in my band takes care of "Guitar" sounds.

I do have tone in mind when playing bass and will probably not end up using wireless for it.

My band uses a lot of tech gear (computers, drum machines, synths and loads of effects). Not having to worry about where my guitar lead is would be awesome as walking between all that stuff generally causes my lead to tangle to the point where I need to unplug, untangle and replug. Obviously that can be quite a pain.
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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
756 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  19:02:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thejay

I use X2 Wireless and sounds every bit as good as a cable. They have recently come down in price too...



I have heard good things about these. I'll definitely look into them more. Thanks!
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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
756 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  19:08:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Dr. Bob,

Thanks for that info. It's reassuring to know that a gear savvy chap like yourself has actually tried wireless and isn't just writing it off as a tone destroyer! I will look into the Legacy systems.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  20:12:09  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wasn't saying it was a tone destroyer only that there is a chance of interference from outside sources in the future...but as your into making more textural soundscapes with your guitar tuning in the local taxi rank or radio station in the middle of a gig might sound pretty cool.....!!! ..just don't tell the audience you didn't plan it..........
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  21:52:35  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i still prefer the wire
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Joske Turbo
Silver Member

Belgium
412 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  22:47:19  Show Profile  Visit Joske Turbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zerksies

quote:
Originally posted by Goran

I would never use anything than cords between my guitar and amp, I have tried Nady and other systems, but you loose the punch and tone a bit. Take a look at guitarists who earns enough money to use what they want, they seldom use wireless if they are known to have great tone.
Well, my opinion


I would have to agree with this one



I'm with you, guys. Wired tone is awesome and affordabble.
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  23:45:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a Samson AP1 that I really like. It will even work through walls. I fits perfectly into a BCB-6 pedalboard. The big drawback is that you need a different transmitter for a Strat style jack or a Gibson style jack and the SOB's want a fortune for the extra transmitter. In fact you can get the whole unit cheaper than just the transmitter.
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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
756 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2009 :  01:32:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

I wasn't saying it was a tone destroyer only that there is a chance of interference from outside sources in the future...but as your into making more textural soundscapes with your guitar tuning in the local taxi rank or radio station in the middle of a gig might sound pretty cool.....!!! ..just don't tell the audience you didn't plan it..........



Ha! I have a mate who drives a taxi... I'll have to get him to drive past my gigs at well timed intervals!
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2009 :  14:56:30  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by natthu

quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

I wasn't saying it was a tone destroyer only that there is a chance of interference from outside sources in the future...but as your into making more textural soundscapes with your guitar tuning in the local taxi rank or radio station in the middle of a gig might sound pretty cool.....!!! ..just don't tell the audience you didn't plan it..........



Ha! I have a mate who drives a taxi... I'll have to get him to drive past my gigs at well timed intervals!





...Sounds like a plan....but be careful if you do..i drive a cab myself part time when i'm not gigging,so does our drummer and our bass player...(the flexibility with the hours suits us for the band..)..make sure your mate doesn't have the meter on.... ya know what taxi drivers are like.....i suppose at least you would have a defo lift home after the gig........
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