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salvatruco
Copper Member
Canada
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 Posted - 03/06/2008 : 00:47:35
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Can you please tell me where to find the schematics for the boss ml-2?
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ssanyee
Silver Member
Hungary
288 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2008 : 11:13:52
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quote:
Originally posted by salvatruco
Can you please tell me where to find the schematics for the boss ml-2?
thanks
Hello salvatruco!
Welcome to the forum!
May I ask why do you need this schem?
Do you have any problem with you ML-2?
Because of this pedal is quite new therefore will not be any available schem on the net, I am afraid...
But if you will get it somehow I am also intrested in about !
cheers |
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salvatruco
Copper Member
Canada
6 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2008 : 12:17:48
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thanks for the replied. I am just want to know how this pedal can be mod... have you tried to open the pedal and look inside? I personally don't think i can mod it, the parts are so different compare to the other boss pedals. again thanks for the repliedquote:
Originally posted by ssanyee
quote:
Originally posted by salvatruco
Can you please tell me where to find the schematics for the boss ml-2?
thanks
Hello salvatruco!
Welcome to the forum!
May I ask why do you need this schem?
Do you have any problem with you ML-2?
Because of this pedal is quite new therefore will not be any available schem on the net, I am afraid...
But if you will get it somehow I am also intrested in about!
cheers
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2008 : 14:18:18
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Hi salvatruco
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
When you had it apart, did you manage to take any photos of the PCB & insides?
Regards Dr. Bob
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ssanyee
Silver Member
Hungary
288 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2008 : 16:42:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob
Hi salvatruco
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
When you had it apart, did you manage to take any photos of the PCB & insides?
Regards Dr. Bob
Hello guys,
Yeah, photo would be very useful.
However, I will get my ML-2 tomorrow afterwards I can open and also can take a photo.
salvatruco,
Why you want to modify this pedal?
Something wrong with it?
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salvatruco
Copper Member
Canada
6 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2008 : 18:26:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob
Hi salvatruco
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
When you had it apart, did you manage to take any photos of the PCB & insides?
Regards Dr. Bob
Thanks guys for the welcoming. I'll try to take pictures tonight. |
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salvatruco
Copper Member
Canada
6 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2008 : 18:38:12
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quote:
Originally posted by ssanyee
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob
Hi salvatruco
Welcome to the forum from Australia.
When you had it apart, did you manage to take any photos of the PCB & insides?
Regards Dr. Bob
Hello guys,
Yeah, photo would be very useful.
However, I will get my ML-2 tomorrow afterwards I can open and also can take a photo.
salvatruco,
Why you want to modify this pedal?
Something wrong with it?
cheers
hello ssanyee,
I just want to get better mids without using a eq. I personally found the mids to thin, I got this pedal for christmas and I haven't played it too much.... I think one of my problems is that i have been modifing other pedals ( DS-1, SD-1 and Mt-2) and now i have specific ideas or should i say specific sounds out a pedal i like.
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ssanyee
Silver Member
Hungary
288 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2008 : 20:56:49
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Hi guys,
I just pick up my ML-2 today, checked by 10 minutes with guitar and now in disassembled it is front of me!
I have bad news and due to them I am very disappointed:
- PWB double side reflow (it is not so big problem but the mod is not so easy in that case)
- IC8 is a big, 144 legs ( I guess) DSP 
- Also this PWB can be used for FDR-1 (depends on some part and software, I think (similar integration as in case of PWB for PH-3 <-> OC-3).
Why I am really sad because of in overdrive/distortion world I have never seen such a digital circuit solutions in a single stompbox  
I am really disappointed and flustrated buying this digital "simulator" against many good (really good) analog sounds...
However, I think the sound itself quite good from it (somehow similar as MT-2 for me) and the mids are well balanced for me but I am worry guys that here is the end of analog world...
cheers |
Edited by - ssanyee on 03/07/2008 20:59:08 |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2008 : 22:40:09
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| Analog is where its AT man! Btw, I've thrown "great pics" around like 60s love but those are absolutely the BEST pics I've seen on this board ssanyee |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 03/08/2008 : 00:57:41
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quote:
Originally posted by ssanyee
I am really disappointed and flustrated buying this digital "simulator" against many good (really good) analog sounds...
Here here! (or is that "hear, hear"?)
If I wanted DSP simulated sounds I'd switch to my POD2.
VIVA ANALOGUE!!
DEATH TO DSP!!
Old-school Boss and tube amps ROCK!!
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2008 : 01:01:16
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Hi ssanyee, DeFrag & guys
If you are going to attempt any mods,
remember that these new pedals are RoHS compliant,
and use Lead Free solder, & components rated for the slightly higher temperatures, required for Lead Free solders.
Just my 2 cents worth.
ssanyee, like DeFrag said "Great pictures".
I can't believe that the lighting is from the flash without the washout.
ssanyee, do you take these with a small tripod, or by hand?
Regards Dr. Bob |
Edited by - Dr. Bob on 03/08/2008 01:24:47 |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2008 : 02:36:46
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& what camera do you use?
I just had a guy GIVE me his old Canon EOS 10D.. waiting on a new battery. |
Edited by - DeFrag on 03/08/2008 02:37:24 |
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ssanyee
Silver Member
Hungary
288 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2008 : 09:14:07
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Hello Dr. Bob, DeFrag, Laurie,
Yeah, thanks the good words!
About my pictures there are some facts:
- Use 'MACRO' function (wihtin 30-40 cm it is needed)
- All pictures what I submitted was done only with built in flash(!)
- Becasue I am not using any tripod to avoid any handshake and becuase of it some ghost effect I normally need to consumpt 5-6 beers before taking picture
The camera is very simple: Sony Cybershot DSC-W55 but I gusee I could take good pictures with others as well :-)
If you check again my first posted picture on its PWB's right-top side you can see the "or used mark" for ML-2 or FDR-1 - of course with a right place inserted jumper.
About Lead Free soldering, when BOSS has started to use this technology?
In my company we were just start to use it since 2-2.5 years, I am intrested in with BOSS!
About ML-2, so I am really disappointed about the circuit but (without schematic knowledge) I hope that the really distortion stage is still analog and perhaps only the equalization - and perhaps the noise reduction? - is made by DSP...
However, it has a really good sound for me but about analog - digital fighting I am definitely on the analog side !
cheers
PS: if you are really satisfied with my pictures quality let me submit pictures as much as possible about my 67pcs of BOSS pedals to the actual threads - if Bossarea can accept :-) |
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salvatruco
Copper Member
Canada
6 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2008 : 23:01:26
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quote:
Originally posted by ssanyee
Hi guys,
I just pick up my ML-2 today, checked by 10 minutes with guitar and now in disassembled it is front of me!
I have bad news and due to them I am very disappointed:
- PWB double side reflow (it is not so big problem but the mod is not so easy in that case)
- IC8 is a big, 144 legs ( I guess) DSP
- Also this PWB can be used for FDR-1 (depends on some part and software, I think (similar integration as in case of PWB for PH-3 <-> OC-3).
Why I am really sad because of in overdrive/distortion world I have never seen such a digital circuit solutions in a single stompbox
I am really disappointed and flustrated buying this digital "simulator" against many good (really good) analog sounds...
However, I think the sound itself quite good from it (somehow similar as MT-2 for me) and the mids are well balanced for me but I am worry guys that here is the end of analog world...
cheers
thanks for all the info above!!! |
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ML-2 schematics help
