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4evrnewB
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Canada
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Posted - 11/27/2007 :  21:36:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...for the newB...I read the threads for pedals4pv and DeFrag on their quests to get the right amp, and I guess I really have only one more question for my situation. I'm going to be gigging on my eternal "Tour of the Basements" in support of my latest yet-to-be released, recorded, written or even conceptualized album "I'm Only in it for the Beer"...seriously, I'll never be a club act, so I'm looking for something that will give me lovely tube tone and the abilty to hold my own with the drums, bass, keys, etc. in friend's basements, sound rooms, garages and such.
What should be I looking at, wattage-wise?

jack
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USA
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Posted - 11/27/2007 :  22:08:27  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd say around 15 watts should be fine, though a 5 watt Epi Valve Junior stack may also do the trick too...

Edited by - jack on 11/27/2007 22:09:30
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DeFrag
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USA
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Posted - 11/27/2007 :  23:29:56  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Class-A.. warm, clean, pure tone. Even a 15-watt amp can get loud enough for basement gigs & small clubs.
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silvertone6120
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USA
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Posted - 11/27/2007 :  23:41:19  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I gig regularly with a Victoria Regal; 15 watts class A into a 15" speaker...more than enough even for that situation.
As far as "basement" work, it depends on how many people are gonna be rockin' out in that little basement and how loud you're looking to get. A little three piece? You won't need a lotta power. On the other hand if it's six or seven pieces with an ambitious drummer, a Twin Reverb may be in the offing...
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4evrnewB
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Canada
322 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2007 :  01:30:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All! Thanks for your input so far, it's very helpful. I haven't seen a lot of amps in that power range - a few smaller, a lot larger. I've been scouring the local classifieds and so far (in my budget) there was a Peavey Royal 8 - Class "A" but only 5 watts, and a Vox Valvetronix 50, (which is not really tube, is it?), a '72 Vibro Champ (6 watts)..anyone hear of the ELK Stageman?...Traynor YCV20...
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pedals 4 pv
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Canada
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Posted - 11/28/2007 :  02:21:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Traynor make good quality stuff, but if the Vibro Champ is priced right I'd go for it. The Vox is pretty big for a basement, and is a hybrid amp. I have never heard the Peavey Royal 8, but I am very impressed with the classic 30 so far, and would recomend it to anyone. If you're looking for a used tube amp, factor a new set of tubes into the price, and you won't go to far wrong.

Edited by - pedals 4 pv on 11/28/2007 02:22:46
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4evrnewB
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Canada
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Posted - 11/28/2007 :  02:55:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Vibro seems a bit pricey at $375, and the YCV20 is the same, while the Royal 8 is only $150...the Vox is $250...
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pedals 4 pv
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Canada
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Posted - 11/28/2007 :  06:02:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like your going to be 4evrnewB 4 pv New tubes would only be 25 bucks if they are old in that Royal 8. One 12ax7 and one el84.

Edited by - pedals 4 pv on 11/28/2007 06:10:52
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4evrnewB
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Canada
322 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2007 :  06:13:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just a litlew worried the Royal won't be loud enough...I've seen a Classic 30, but the guy wants $400...(and it's 3 hours drive away...)

Edited by - 4evrnewB on 11/28/2007 06:15:29
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pedals 4 pv
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Canada
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Posted - 11/28/2007 :  06:38:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it says Peavey on it, it'll be loud
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4evrnewB
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Canada
322 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2007 :  15:45:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Crate V1512? Heard of them, but know very little about their quality(ies).
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jack
Platinum Member

USA
1418 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2007 :  16:19:17  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 4evrnewB

Crate V1512? Heard of them, but know very little about their quality(ies).



I've heard mixed reviews, but most seem to be on the positive side. Plus you may be able to get one of these at a great closeout price soon because Crate offers a new series of V-Series amps. They have a Single-End, Class A, 18watt, 2x12 combo (with one channel!), that I am seriously thinking of getting if Santa leaves me some money in my stocking.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Crate-V-Series-V18212-18W-2x12-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=487055
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4evrnewB
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Canada
322 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2007 :  18:47:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Damn! Lost out on the little Peavey Royal 8...
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2007 :  21:45:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 11/29/2007 :  10:09:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For basement gigs with friends I think 5W is too little, 15W (not solid state) will do it if the speaker is efficient enough. Fender Blues Jr and Pro Jr comes to mind. Laney do a 15W that�s less expensive but not as good sound wise.
At 30W there are many good ones, my favourite is Carvin Vintage 33, not that easy to find though.
For apartment gigging 15W is too much, remember that you should drive a tube amp quite hard to get the best out of it. You could use a power soak, but the good ones aren�t cheap.


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4evrnewB
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Canada
322 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2007 :  21:34:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
..looking at a Fender Blues Jr. now...
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