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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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 Posted - 07/15/2009 : 22:47:39
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I should add to to this i've got great results with my pod for recording but for live stuff it's the amps and pedals...i do use the rack with the pod for some live stuff but only for the effects mainly delay and reverb all the amp sims are off....
The Doc..... experimentation is how all great sounds are created bro' ...... ....... |
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dean
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2009 : 11:32:15
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Snip of originally posted reply by Dr. Bob
Can I ask which Zoom gear-product you have?
As I have a soft spot for Zoom gear, the ZNR (Zoom Noise Reduction).
is one of the best keep secrets in the industry.
Unless you have $3K-$5K for some Eventide units.
Regards Dr. Bob 
5500
Thank you Dr. Bob for your extensive reply, very helpful. The Zoom multi effects I was using is the Zoom GFX-3. In fact, I think I will still keep this equipment as it still sounds really nice in certain situations and has a ton of options to choose from, including many banks of sounds.
Is it OK in this forum to include links to other sites? I have my own web site that has a picture of this Zoom pedal, in fact I have photos of all my guitars and music equipment. I do this as a hobby. Is it good practise to include links in replies like this?
I will still be using proper Boss individual pedals from now on but have routed the Zoom GFX-3 through the Amp's effects loop so I can use both. In fact, the effects loop of my amp now actually goes into my Mackie mixer, out through it's effects send, into my Ediriol audio interface (really nice), into the Mac, through the Guitar Rig 3 software, back into the mixer effects receive then finally back to my Amps return. I know it sounds complicated but this gives me the ability to send my guitar signal where I want it.
This only effects the Amp's effects loop. If I turn the amp back to the direct input I get just my stomp boxes direct from my guitar so I can bypass all the other computer stuff (best of both worlds).
I have done all this after reading all these useful posts here as I have decided to go proper Boss pedals but still keep the ability to do other software bits if I need to.
All the best.
Dean. |
Edited by - dean on 07/16/2009 12:05:52 |
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dean
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2009 : 11:37:53
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Originally posted by PaulH
Hardware will still work in 20, 30, 50 years time.
Software will be out of date, and possibly unusable, in a few years.
Hardware still has excellent resale value, even stuff 20+ years old.
Software... you'll never recoup your money spent, and in afew years time you'll probably not be able to give it away.
Wow, that is probably the best inspiration I needed to keep the hardware. Brilliant! Thank you! That makes so much sense.
Cheers again, fantastic stuff.
Dean. |
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dean
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2009 : 11:50:12
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There is just one more small issue. Now that I have my Boss pedals on a pedal board, I can only route them directly into either the Amp's input (pre-amp) or through the effects loop. I can't do both. I mean, I used to run the distortion in front of the amp and the chorus in the effects loop. The Boss pedal board has only one input etc. so you can't do both? Yes, I suppose I can still wire the pedals where I like, but this makes the wiring messy. The whole point of the board it to keep things clean.
I am not really that bothered as my setup is so complicated anyway (see my previous posts on this thread) but I thought I would just add this to the pot and see what others do if anything to get around this?
Best regards,
Dean. |
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silvertone6120
Gold Member
USA
609 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2009 : 15:21:11
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Dean, just run all your pedals in line from the guitar to the amp...don't worry about running anything through an effects loop. You can theoretically run a separate pedal setup into your loop but why go to the trouble? I use all my effects in line and have no problems and no complaints.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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Posted - 07/16/2009 : 16:55:42
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Hi dean
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Is it OK in this forum to include links to other sites? I have my own web site that has a picture of this Zoom pedal, in fact I have photos of all my guitars and music equipment. I do this as a hobby. Is it good practise to include links in replies like this?
There should be no problems, adding/posting a link to your web page.
As long as it's suitable for public viewing.
And it would be nice to see all your gear.
If you re-check your profile, there is a placeholder for your homepage as well.
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I have done all this after reading all these useful posts here
Thanks for the kind words Dean.
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2009 : 17:11:21
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| I always went with less is more. how good can the computer be if they cram so much stuff in it.Example how could a multi effects board distortion,flanger ex. be better then the real thing.how much time could they spend on making one thing really good. most of those multi effect don't give so much options in the way you can mold the sound |
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dean
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2009 : 00:35:07
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
Hi dean
There should be no problems, adding/posting a link to your web page.
As long as it's suitable for public viewing.
And it would be nice to see all your gear.
Thanks Dr. Bob, here is the link to part of my site that contains some images of some of my equipment, not all of it yet as I have still to upload the latest Boss pedals and board I have purchased. I will upload my pedal board and pedals soon as I see there is a massive thread going with pedal board photos!
Here's the link, click on "view equipment" to see the hardware and "Guitars" to see the guitars". http://www.deanbloom.com/music/index.html
All the best.
Dean. |
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applesforjonah
Bronze Member
USA
93 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2009 : 08:29:52
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I agree with everyone, there is the best of both worlds when it comes to hardware and software. But actually turning knobs on a device that produces a real sound rather than a modeled/recorded sound will always be better in my book.
It's kind of like how easy it is for me to include a lot of music on an iPod, but there's nothing that beats the needle hitting the grooves on the turntable. Digital is convenient, but analog has feel. |
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The_Doc
Gold Member
United Kingdom
509 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2009 : 17:45:42
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Digital is convenient, but analog has feel.
I like that one!! Sums it up for me - nice one applesforjonah |
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DasBeef
Gold Member
United Kingdom
704 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2009 : 20:43:15
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Originally posted by The_Doc
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Digital is convenient, but analog has feel.
I like that one!! Sums it up for me - nice one applesforjonah
I thought that was a great quote too. Let's make T-Shirts... |
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dean
Copper Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2009 : 04:20:34
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Originally posted by applesforjonah
Digital is convenient, but analog has feel.
Spot on, received loud and clear and fully understood, I like it..... Brilliant, thank you...
Dean. |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2009 : 21:04:22
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Originally posted by DasBeef
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Originally posted by The_Doc
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Digital is convenient, but analog has feel.
I like that one!! Sums it up for me - nice one applesforjonah
I thought that was a great quote too. Let's make T-Shirts...
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applesforjonah
Bronze Member
USA
93 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2009 : 09:46:34
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Originally posted by zerksies
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Originally posted by DasBeef
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Originally posted by The_Doc
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Digital is convenient, but analog has feel.
I like that one!! Sums it up for me - nice one applesforjonah
I thought that was a great quote too. Let's make T-Shirts...
+1
I dabble a little with printmaking, it would be cool to make some t-shirts  |
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PaulH
Gold Member
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Posted - 07/21/2009 : 08:57:25
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Originally posted by applesforjonah
Digital is convenient, but analog has feel.
I don't agree.
I've never believed the equpiement anybody uses gives the music any feel.
The so called "feel" comes from your enjoyment of the music, your playing ability, and your mental state.
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Individual pedals versus computer effects
