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Pacafeliz
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Mexico
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Posted - 04/25/2007 :  21:08:59  Show Profile  Visit Pacafeliz's Homepage  Click to see Pacafeliz's MSN Messenger address  Send Pacafeliz a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
here's some shots that might interest some of you guys, enjoy!


it's the '78 on the left, '80 on the right


notice how the '78s box is painted inside and out, plus the switch is transparent.




'78 with large chip


'80 with the classic JRC 4558D chip

yes i know the OD-1 has a burnt out component in the lower right corner, anyone know what it is, so i can repair it? i quit using the OD-1 since i got hooked on the SD-1s (i use 2 of 'em), and it's getting too valuable (plus personal reasons - it was my dad's).

the '80 sold for $245 on ebay (insane, eh?!), here's the link with more pics:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200075340622

hoping some of you will find this interesting... good luck!

Pat.

ronster
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Australia
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Posted - 04/26/2007 :  05:01:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow great pics! Nice to see some of the differences.
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 04/26/2007 :  07:43:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks a lot!!! Great pictures!
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controlfreak
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Ireland
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Posted - 04/26/2007 :  09:46:03  Show Profile  Visit controlfreak's Homepage  Reply with Quote
that's a diode that's burnt out.
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strat714
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USA
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Posted - 04/27/2007 :  17:33:41  Show Profile  Visit strat714's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That's a zener diode. A 05Z11A zener diode to be exact.
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sp-1
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Germany
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Posted - 04/27/2007 :  17:48:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cool pics
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ChristoMephisto
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Canada
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Posted - 05/06/2007 :  18:18:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thx Pacafeliz for the clear pics, very helpful!!
I noticed the values of C2 and R4 are different, but same frequency.
R2 is different with better impedance in the '80. Don't know what R13 does tho. Wonder if it has to do with the IC being different, so required new values to prevent damage or improper operation of teh IC.
does each one has its own stock values? Or replaced what was there originally? Any sound difference in the two?
Interesting to see more than an IC change in the circut.
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svengali
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Australia
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Posted - 07/17/2007 :  02:13:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
does anyone know why did that diode burnt out?
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Pacafeliz
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Mexico
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Posted - 07/17/2007 :  04:41:18  Show Profile  Visit Pacafeliz's Homepage  Click to see Pacafeliz's MSN Messenger address  Send Pacafeliz a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by svengali

does anyone know why did that diode burnt out?



i'd like to know, too...
now when i put a battery in there, the battery gets hot and sucked dry in about 5 secs!
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 07/17/2007 :  15:32:13  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pacafeliz

quote:
Originally posted by svengali

does anyone know why did that diode burnt out?



i'd like to know, too...
now when i put a battery in there, the battery gets hot and sucked dry in about 5 secs!



Hi Pacafeliz
The battery gets hot because the diode-zener, is shorted, it is the protection zener diode.

It probably had a reversed polarity plug pack connected to it.
You can remove the protection zener, & then test the OD-1 with a fresh battery,
The one that got hot, just had all the life sucked out of it, & will be very flat.

If the pedal then works with a fresh battery, then you can try plugging in a plug pack with the correct polarity & voltage.
To be on the safe side use a genuine Boss adapter.
I think that the early OD-1 that you have works off an ACA adapter.

When you know it's all working again, then replace the zener,
it's probably a 9.1 Volt (11V edited 18-07-07) 500mA or 1 watt type, but the other guys can back me on that one, I don't know all the Boss Zener numbers.

It is one of the most common & prelevent faults with most Boss & other compact pedals.
It's a common voltage and part, it just sells under lots of different number, depending on the company the manufactured it.

If you have a multimeter, you can test the faulty zener, it will read a short circuit, in both directions.

That's the part that's (over)-heating the battery.

Good Luck.

Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 07/17/2007 23:07:16
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bossarea
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Posted - 07/17/2007 :  22:45:41  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The zener is D1 and is probably marked as such on the PCB. Since it's an ACA pedal it's a 12V zener (actually 11V according to schematic).
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
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Posted - 07/17/2007 :  22:59:12  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by strat714

That's a zener diode. A 05Z11A zener diode to be exact.



Hi Bossarea & Guys

Thanks for clearing that up Bossarea.
Just going by the part number ..Z11. (11 volts).

Regards Dr. Bob

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